Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Football League team season lists


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. A straightforward disagreement as to whether this summary list is encyclopaedic. In the discussion the arguments were balanced. However, no prosed commentary is provided to give context or meaning to the table. If such added value is not included in say, the next three months, no objection could be taken to a further challenge. TerriersFan (talk) 23:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

National Football League team season lists

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We have Template:NFL team season lists and Category:National Football League teams seasons for something like this. Buc (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose The intention in creating this article was to provide a summary list of each team's accomplishments, with lifeteam wins/losses/championships. This article does need more work to be useful, but that doesn't mean it should be deleted. Also, the existence of a template and category is irrelevant... we have Template:AlbertaElections and Category:Elections in Alberta, but that's not a reason to delete List of Alberta general elections. Tom pw (talk) (review) 20:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Cruft/synthesis/meaningless information. As the template included at the bottom of the article indicates, season pages for NFL teams already exist. There is therefore no need to create another page that simply combines all the information, especially since comparing the record of a team started in the 1990s means nothing compared to a team that has been around since the 1950s.  The links to the teams given in thr article tend to redirect, and the information claimed to be planned to be included is already present in the team's season article or main article, so all this creates is meaningless interwiki crosslinks to the same information in different places. MSJapan (talk) 21:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * "claimed to be planned to be included"? Umm... it is included. As I poionted before, articles that summarise information present in other articles are not intrinsically "meaningless". Also, what exactly do you mean by "cruft"? The term makes me think of Crufts, but I sense that's not the meaning you have in mind. Tom pw (talk) (review) 18:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per MSJapan. The article is definitely meaningless information.  As MSJapan has already said, season pages for each of the NFL teams already exist.  Razorflame 15:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Ok, before anyone cites WP:USEFUL at me, I don't really see the problem with this page. It's a summarization of existing pages, yes, but what a nice summarization!  Lists are "cheap", and it doesn't matter if they overlap Cats or Temps.  This seems to me at least to be a perfectly acceptable "overlist", or "list of lists".   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  21:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.