Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Hero Shivaji


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Please avoid asserting that there WP:MUSTBESOURCES; it's not very illuminating and it doesn't address the concerns at hand. Kurykh (talk) 01:57, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

National Hero Shivaji

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Could not find sources for passing WP:NFILM. Trying an individual nomination instead to see whether it gives a better result than Articles for deletion/Aisa Kyon Hota Hai?, which was a multi-page nomination. Per WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES, merely stating that sources exist without proof is not an argument to keep. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk,  contribs ) 01:01, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:53, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:53, 23 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:NFILM. This user seems to be making a habit of nominating clearly-notable articles that wind up being basically always being kept as snow keeps. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 01:43, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Question --, I am willing to believe that a film with two   well-know principal actors might be notable, but how can we tell that this is actually the case. I recognize the difficulties in sourcing 1960s Bollywood films from reviews, but there should be books covering the period by now.  DGG ( talk ) 06:06, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't say I have books on 1960s Hindi-language Bollywood films floating around (not least because I don't speak Hindi!), but it is a widely-distributed film starring notable actors, and so it is highly unlikely that Hindi-language sources don't exist. Systemic bias is a bug, not a feature. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 06:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete The current article source does not support notability. Searches found nothing helpful, just listings in film data bases.  No reviews found. No elements of WP:NFO suggesting that RSes likely exist are met.  Happy to reconsider if RSes are found that satisfy notability guidelines. Gab4gab (talk) 16:57, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  07:11, 2 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 04:44, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete- for want of adequate sourcing. As noted above, the only sources available are sparse and routine database entries. Attacking the nominator and asserting without evidence that there surely must be sources out there somewhere, seems a poor defense of this rather bad article. Reyk  YO!  20:28, 15 March 2017 (UTC)


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