Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Socialist black metal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. Even discounting the tagged editors, there is no consensus on whether to keep as-is or to merge. -Splash talk 00:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

National Socialist black metal
This is not a valid music genre. The music style is no different from standard black/folk metal, with the lyrics being the sole difference. This, along with Pagan metal (black metal with slightly different lyrics)and Battle metal (black metal with yet another lyrical theme)should all be removed based on the aforementioned criteria. If, for some reason, someone truly believes this article is necessary, merge it and the others with the Black Metal page.
 * This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now. &mdash;Crypticbot (operator) 15:40, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge . This is actually a genre of music, with an extremely large following. It is best to merge this article with Black Metal however, as its not a genre on its own. Putting in the template for suggested Merging as a soloution to the deletion. Leyasu
 * merge. Per Leyasu. Basically, this is black metal with "nazi-lyrics" Spearhead 16:46, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * these bands do tend to function as their own scene and some people refuse to listen to or support them because of their politics. i think it should stay seperate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.219.215 (talk • contribs)
 * I see no reason whatsoever to delete this entry, nor to "merge" it. National Socialist Black Metal  is, though not a label for a musica genre that has nothing in common with other musical genres, a label for a specific category of bands and music nonetheless.  Like it or leave it, thats about it.  The most proper way to handle this would be to leave this as its own entry and link it in the black metal or other sections suggested above.  NSBM as an acronym for this genre of artists and music is a search term that should link to an entry for National Socialist Black Metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.188.222 (talk • contribs) 20:27, December 10, 2005

'''This AfD debate is being relisted in order to prompt a more thorough consensus. Please place new discussion below this line.''' → Ξxtreme Unction {yak ł blah } 14:00, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article's claim for notability seems to be that, while the topic is not *musically* very different from other genres, it is considered different in critical analyses, and has a different fanbase. If these statements are correct and verifiable, then we could have an article; otherwise, perhaps a mention in one of the other articles.  Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the topic to make any decisions. -- Creidieki 14:08, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, as it seems like a viable topic for an independent article. Tuf-Kat 16:00, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Is there a way to put an article on probation or something? Like, "We're not sure whether we believe you, get some sources in the next month or we'll renominate you for AfD"? -- Creidieki 16:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep separately, like Christian pop. Gazpacho 23:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge or keep, but dont delete If you are thinking of merging it, go ahead. this is definately a sub-genre of black metal, so maybe it should go in a list with the other sub-genres mentioned; or it could just be linked to from the black metal listing along with the rest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.214.195.116 (talk • contribs) 23:36, December 11, 2005 (UTC), and constitutes his/her sole edit.
 * keep If you are thinking of merging it, go ahead. this is definately a sub-genre of black metal, so maybe it should go in a list with the other sub-genres mentioned; or it could just be linked to from the black metal listing along with the rest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.214.195.116 (talk • contribs) 23:36, December 11, 2005 (UTC), and constitutes his/her sole edit.
 * Keep This ought to be kept separate, not merged or deleted. It is an actual genre, but because of the ideological differences, it should not be merged with the black metal page. GreatCthulhu &mdash; the preceding comment was this user's third edit ever.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.