Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nationalist Turkey Party


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Nationalist Turkey Party

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Fails WP:GNG. Kadı   Message   20:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Turkey.  Kadı    Message   20:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:21, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - I managed to find quite a bit of coverage and updated the article with a few references. It's a weak keep because almost all of them are in Turkish and it's entirely possible that there are other factors making them not notable that I can't read. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:18, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , we have a bit of a problem here: this party was not founded by Meral Akşener. The sources only say that after getting expelled from the MHP in 2017, Akşener was going to create her own party with rumours about it being called the Nationalist Turkey party. Per the archive of Ref 1 by the Court of Cassation in the article, the Nationalist Turkey Party was already founded in 2011 (p. 4), and Akşener created Good Party instead. So the topic of the article should be the 2011 party, while Refs 2, 3 and 4 are about the rumoured party which in a way never came to be. ~Styyx Talk ? 09:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah this is what happens when I don't speak Turkish! I was taking that from the news articles Google translated and brief mentions in other places (Legal Monitor Worldwide which I didn't include and Armenpress). So is what you're saying that there are **two** Nationalist Turkey Parties and that one of them is established and one of them is just rumoured to exist? And that the references I've found are about one that doesn't **actually** exist, just was perhaps going to? --PanydThe muffin is not subtle 10:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Pretty much yes. This is a source about Akşener denying that she was going to create a party (April 2017) after those rumours appeared. Then later in October she created the other party. However, the Armenpress source is about the actual 2011 party. ~Styyx Talk ? 14:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timothytyy (talk) 03:55, 1 March 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Final relist. Soft deletiion is not an option. DId you mean to cast a vote Styyx? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Keep Appears to be sufficient Turkish-language coverage to meet WP:GNG. —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ganesha811, Do you know Turkish? I am Turkish, and I can easily say that this article is not notable. Kadı    Message   20:33, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I am convinced by the discussion above that this party is not notable. Struck through former comment. Delete. —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete — Apart from a single source, the references found during this AfD are about a different party that never came to be. My own search yields no additional results, so without multiple references this doesn't pass the GNG nor NCORP. ~Styyx Talk ? 19:56, 12 March 2023 (UTC)


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