Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nationals–Mets rivalry


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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 22:24, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Nationals–Mets rivalry

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There is not a "rivalry" between these two teams that meets the notability guidelines. This page only mentions as the basis of this "rivalry" that both teams contended for the NL East title in 2014 and 2015, and that Daniel Murphy signed with the Nationals during the past offseason, "making the next game between these teams much anticipated." This is insufficient. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:21, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep, not much of a rivalry, but the the subject has at least been covered by many news organizations, including the New York Times--Prisencolin (talk) 00:30, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you provide some of those sources? I'm not aware of them. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:53, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * NY Times article, NJ Post, NY Post.--Prisencolin (talk) 20:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, so the two articles I discussed below, and the third, the NY Times article, makes one mention of them being rivals, without any reasons backing it up. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:03, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, unless sources are provided to demonstrate a rivalry more significant than any 2 teams in the same division. Rlendog (talk) 15:50, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * All I see is this one NY Post article from April 2015 (which only uses the word "rivalry" once, and it's in the headline that the author didn't write) and this one from NJ.com from August 2015, which claims a "budding rivalry". This isn't enough for notability. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:32, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well I mean, if the word is in the title, isn't that what the article is about then?--Prisencolin (talk) 20:01, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Headlines are written by editorial staff, usually to be more "clickbait"y. The articles are about how the teams compete against each other, and don't really back up the assertion that they are "rivals". – Muboshgu (talk) 20:04, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Any 2 teams that play in the same division can be described as a "rivalry," especially in a headline. The same goes for any 2 teams that play each other in a playoff series (or maybe 2).  But we have required far more coverage specific to a particularly notable rivalry between 2 teams to warrant an article. Rlendog (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete There isn't a rivalry between these two teams significant enough for a WP article....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:21, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. This "rivalry" is nothing more than two teams competing in the same division.  The article does nothing other than tell us that the rivalry exists -- no discussion of causes, no notable examples of the rivalry in action (and, no, signing up someone else's player doesn't count as "rivalry" material).  NewYorkActuary (talk) 22:03, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Apparently it does though, in the opinion of several writers.--Prisencolin (talk) 20:26, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTNEWS applies. There's a difference between writing a newspaper article and an encyclopedic article. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:10, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete- Every time any two teams meet someone wants to call it a "rivalry". There's nothing nothing to distinguish this from any other set of past and scheduled games between teams in the same sporting league. Reyk  YO!  13:27, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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