Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natural Selection (computer game)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was withdrawn on good faith that editors claiming that this is one of the most famous mods will actually add some of these sources they possess to the article. Wickethewok 13:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Natural Selection (computer game)
Almost all of the article is a game guide. There may have been some articles written about it at some point, but a short review or two is hardly enough for this full-blown piece of original research that keeps expanding and expanding without any sourcing. Borderline notability at best. Delete as an original research game guide. Wickethewok 16:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep if independent sources added The article might need to be trimmed or cleaned up, but that's not a reason to delete. Also, a quick search for "Natural Selection" produced many hits, so it's quite possible this is a notable product with a decent size fan base. I suggest an editor with some knowledge of Half-Life mods take a closer look to verify whether or not this is a notable mod expansion, and also check for independent articles or reviews of it from reliable gaming sources. There were a lot of hits, so I wouldn't immediately rule out there being such a source.  If no sources are found, though, then delete and only recreate when the information can be independently established. Dugwiki 16:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep! Natural Selection is the most played (from valve independence) modification of the game Half-Life link! There is no reason that this article has to be deleted! -- Sensenmann 17:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plenty of notability, as Sensenmann says.  Needs a little work, and I understand the possible original research concerns, but the information is accurate and notable. Endersdouble 17:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Could someone here please show some of these sources? Wickethewok 17:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think http://steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html this was what he meant. I can't check it yet, but I know it's good for information (and Natural Selection is possibly the most famous mod after DOD and CS for Half Life.) The Kinslayer 12:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. -- moe .RON   talk  00:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep as a well-known mod, but needs better sources and significant cleanup of game-guide content. --Alan Au 03:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Per above. Oh, and btw, AfD is not a clean up tool. Havok (T/C/c) 06:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Most of the information is verifiable through the official site, which is due to go public soon.ChimpZealot 09:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Highly notable game mod. Merely needs some clean-up tags, not an AfD. The Kinslayer 09:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's interesting to compare the content about NS to the content about, say, Half-Life 2.  After all, there is a whole separate wiki page dedicated to a List of weapons in Half-Life 2.  You see the same pattern if you look at other games (Unreal Tournament has a list of weapons, Doom 3 has a list of levels, etc.).  In other words, compared to other game articles on Wikipedia, this one does not stand out as being particularly bad.  Bytecrafter 12:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.