Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naturally (Selena Gomez & the Scene song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Kiss & Tell (Selena Gomez & the Scene album). Discussion shows that the article does not meet requirements of WP:NSONGS at the moment. As suggested, article to be merged with parent until such time as the single achieves the notability requirments of WP:NSONGS, in which case it can be broken out into a stand alone article in WP:Summary style  SilkTork  *YES! 00:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Naturally (Selena Gomez & the Scene song)
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No awards, no covers: fails WP:NSONGS. Some versions of this article have claimed a one-week blip on the "Bubbling Under" chart, but I haven't been able to verify that, and the claims have contradicted themselves. Efforts to redirect the article have been thwarted. &mdash;Kww(talk) 01:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 01:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - According to the article itself, the song was released as a single just days ago so the song might become notable if it charts. However, due to severe shortage of sources I can find no independent verification of the single's release and the date on which it occurred. For the article to survive, the single's actual release needs verification, and then some time must pass to see if the single hits the charts. Unless both of those happen, the article should be deleted. Doomsdayer520 (Talk|Contribs) 10:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. There appears to be enough coverage (MTV and others here, like the AceShowbiz article) to support an independent article.  Gongshow  Talk 21:33, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that aceshowbiz is on the spam blacklist, so it cannot be used as a source. The rest simply announce the debut of the video, which would comfortably fit in the parent album article.&mdash;Kww(talk) 21:50, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info about AceShowbiz. I believe the MTV article goes beyond a passing mention (a couple lines on what the song is about, a few more lines on the video, which can be used in the Wiki article), so that combined with another source would be enough in my view to satisfy WP:NSONGS, but as I cannot find another WP:RS at this time, I'll stay neutral for now.  Gongshow  Talk 22:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, but - Delete as of this date, due to conflicting and unsupported charting claims. However as time passes, and Doomsdayer520 points out, the song might chart. If this does indeed occur, you may automatically consider my position [at that time] to be Keep.—Iknow23 (talk) 03:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Chelo61 (talk) 01:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Chelo61's talk page helps determine weighting for his !vote.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:40, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 02:07, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The new Billboard is coming out this upcoming week, and chart information, and possibly more information from mainstream sources will be able to keep the article afloat. Candyo32 (talk) 19:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep It has a music video that runs on Disney Channel, VH1, and MTV, it's in various music news articles (just Google it), and on iTunes as of 11:07 EST on 20 December, it's number 41. I think it's very worthy of it's own Wikipedia article. From  “Naturally” is available as a digital single on iTunes and Gomez is scheduled to perform the song on “Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest 2010.” It will be performed on a major TV broadcast soon which I think is more reason to keep it. --ThaGRANDlyfe6984 (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC) — ThaGRANDlyfe6984 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Redirect to Kiss & Tell (Selena Gomez & the Scene album). Any useful information can be discussed in that article as there doesn't seem to be much available for it right now. As for those who say "It's going to chart, she's going to perform it," when she does, perhaps then it can get an article if it gets enough discussion in reliable sources. But as of now, keep it in the album article.  Chase wc 91  07:00, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.