Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ndaba Mandela


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. slakr \ talk / 03:45, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Ndaba Mandela

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I do not see any personal notability for Nelson Mandela's grandson. Children of heads of state are sometimes considered notable, but I don;t think this extends further.  DGG ( talk ) 00:46, 13 February 2014 (UTC)  DGG ( talk ) 00:46, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep This was pretty heavily debated during the creation process, and the edit trail shows that as well as why it was approved. I don't see why this is being further debated. -SD (talk) 02:42, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:00, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:00, 14 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Article meets GNG. 81.129.157.53 (talk) 14:53, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Invalid per WP:ILLEGIT. Leaky  Caldron  15:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete The best we have is he is a founder of an organization we do not have an article on. He does not pass notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ymblanter (talk) 08:36, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Does not pass WP:BIO. Most of the sources in the article only mention him briefly and are mainly focused on Nelson Mandela. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 13:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - sorry, but it doesn't matter how extensive the discussion was prior to creation, it doesn't seem to have covered whether or not the subject is actually notable. Yet another instance of something being accepted at AFC well before it is ready. That said, AFC is not "approval" and doesn't guarantee that an article can't or won't be challenged at AFD anyway, as this has here. The sourcing here is pretty weak including multiple instances of the same article by the same author run in sister papers being presented as separate sources. Most of the sources are prefaced on the fact that he is Mandela's grandson and he doesn't inherit notability from his (very) notable grandfather. Stalwart 111  08:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Move to User:Straightbstudent/Ndaba Mandela, per WP:BASIC. If notability cannot be proven, perhaps could be created, and  be redirected there. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 23:46, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
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