Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ndriçim Shtubina


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 03:25, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Ndriçim Shtubina

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Player fails notability at WP:ATHLETE having never played in a fully-professional league/competition Hubschrauber729 (talk) 00:26, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. GiantSnowman 01:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 01:41, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's hard to find sources in English, but according to Albanian Superliga, KS Vllaznia Shkodër, the team in which he plays, is currently in "the highest level of association football in Albania". Even if this level is not professional (and I can't tell whether it is or not), being the highest level in Albania should be good enough for a WP:ATHLETE argument. He appears to have had non-trivial play time. THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 03:56, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - he has played 26 matches in the Albanian Superliga per FSHF.org. I'm adding two sources, so I think the article probably passes WP:N even if the Superliga is not fully professional. Jogurney (talk) 05:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm chaning my vote to delete since Albanian Superliga is not fully professional and the only sources are trivial in nature. Jogurney (talk) 21:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Jogurney and THEN. Nfitz (talk) 05:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Cool, looks like I'm not the only one who thinks being at the top level should be enough for WP:ATHLETE. Juzhong (talk) 16:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Albanian League is not fully professional. As I said countless times, the "amateur" part of WP:ATHLETE refers to sports where there is no sort of professionalism (such as fencing, kayak and taekwondo) - and for which the top level can be considered, for instance, the Olympics, or the World Championships for that particular sport. But football, as far as we all know, is a professional game (probably the most professional one around), so that part just does not apply here. --Angelo (talk) 15:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * However many times you say it, it doesn't make it any less weasly. Juzhong (talk) 19:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


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