Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nea (book series)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Move to draft. The only source here is not a WP:RS, so deleting this due to failing to meet WP:V would be defensible. But, moving it to draft space for further work seems like a reasonable compromise and supported by WP:ATD. Note that running it through the WP:AfC process might be useful to get some outside review, but isn't strictly required before moving it back to mainspace. But, please, don't just move it right back without finding good sources. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:12, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Nea (book series)

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A Finnish young-adult book series; the article looks to be a translation of the (unsourced) article on Finnish Wikipedia. I haven't found any references in English or Finnish, though I'm not confident my search in Finnish was exhaustive. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 18:25, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:46, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Did you check all the titles? I checked the newest and oldest few and found no sources out of blogspot or book directories. They have not been reviewed, maybe because they did not achieve bestseller status. I should think this will be deleted. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 00:34, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Low brow bestsellers often receive no reviews according to P N Furbank, "The Twentieth Century Best Seller" in Boris Ford (ed), The Pelican Guide to English Literature, Penguin Books, 1961, volume 7 (The Modern Age), p 430. The fact that 24 of these books were published from 1989 to 2015 prima facie implies these books must have consistently sold well (otherwise they would not keep publishing new ones). This is a good example of how GNG creates bad systematic biases. Another possible explanation is that GBooks might not be digitising the contents of Finnish libraries. Most of the stuff in there in snippet view, even in foreign languages, where it identifies its provenance, seems to come from large university libraries in the USA, such as Michigan, California and Indiana. My understanding is that GBooks still contains less than a quarter of all the books that have been published. I am not in a position to conduct a paper search in a Finnish library, but if Finland has undigitised periodicals for librarians and teachers (which typically contain reviews of children's books), it would be desirable for someone to conduct a paper search. I am not sufficiently familiar with Finnish literature to tell you which periodicals you should be looking for. James500 (talk) 15:27, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 11:22, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Move to draft. I don't have any sources to contribute here, but I also don't feel like I can say there aren't any. The article could potentially be rescued by a Finn so it should be moved to the draft area in case that happens. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 11:28, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think draftspace is meant for articles actively being worked on, which to be fair I can't really tell if this article is or not. Another option is a soft delete where anyone wanting to work on the article again can ask for a WP:REFUND. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.