Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neal Pinto


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 22:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Neal Pinto

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Non-notable musician. The article is written by the subject, so conflict of interest is evident as well. CyberGhostface (talk) 16:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment article may have originally been written by subject but has been neutrally edited so that all material is objective, sourced/cited and indicates notability through affiliations and accomplishments indicated in sources and external links Pb216387 (talk) 17:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How is he notable? Has he even released any major CDs?--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:16, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete No claims in article meet WP:MUSIC. No hits in search seem to indicate he meets WP:N. Clearly fails notability guidelines.  Theseeker4 (talk) 19:24, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 20:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 20:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Aside from a couple of brief but possibly okish references in the article, the best independent coverage I found from Google results were a brief review and 2 sentences in a live review. Nothing at allmusic. Doesn't even appear to be locally particularly notable.--Michig (talk) 21:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. Does not appear to satisfy WP:MUSIC criteria. --DAJF (talk) 00:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I admit that this article was published by myself (ie: the subject) but it was actually written by another individual who had attempted to publish the original article but was deleted due to similar issues regarding notability. When I had discovered that a former band of mine was on Wikipedia and had linked me as an associated act, I felt that I could re-post the article satisfying Point#6 under "Criteria for musicians and ensembles" under WP:MUSIC criteria.  The cited Winnipeg Sun article also supports the fact that I worked with another artist that Wikipedia deemed as notable.  Since then it looks like people have chipped my article down to nothing in an attempt to make it qualify.  Wouldn't the review found by Michig fall under Point#1 of the same WP:MUSIC criteria?  If this still does not satisfy the criteria then, please delete the article ASAP and thank you for your time and persistent effort. PintoMusic (talk) 03:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see how this really meets WP:MUSIC as the sources given don't quite meet the reliability requirements. Someone should take a good look at the Finite Sky article, too... sparkl!sm hey! 09:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Perhaps I had underestimated the rules regarding notability, COI, how they're regulated, and when they're enforced. Please delete my article ASAP - I'm sorry if I hadn't clarified that earlier.  Thanks again. PintoMusic (talk) 16:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


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