Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neal Sales-Griffin


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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 21:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Neal Sales-Griffin

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Candidate for office who fails to meet Notability (people). Mpen320 (talk) 22:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. --Mpen320 (talk) 22:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)– Muboshgu (talk) 16:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. --Mpen320 (talk) 22:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)– Muboshgu (talk) 16:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak delete He has never held a notable office so WP:NPOL is out of the question. I would maybe keep him for his business career, but all the coverage of that appears to be local, so fails GNG. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 11:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. People do not get articles just for being non-winning candidates for political office; to qualify for an article he would need to either have preexisting notability for other reasons independent of the candidacy, or be referenceable to such an unusual depth and range and volume of media coverage that he had a credible claim to being much more special than other non-winning mayoral candidates. However, there isn't nearly enough sourcing here that's covering him in the context of his business career to get him over our notability standards for businesspeople, so he hasn't passed the former test — and even the political sourcing is not strongly enough about him to get him over the latter. Candidates are not handed a WP:GNG-based exemption from having to pass WP:NPOL just because some local coverage of the election campaign exists — local coverage of every election campaign always exists, so if that were how it worked then every candidate could always exempt themselves from NPOL, and NPOL itself would be completely meaningless if nobody ever actually had to pass it anymore. Bearcat (talk) 15:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete being a candidate for mayor is not a sign of notability, and nothing else comes even close to showing notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * He's clearly a delete on the candidate bit. He might be a notable businessperson, though. Effectively neutral. SportingFlyer  T · C  07:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:34, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


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