Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ned Frame


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:47, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Ned Frame

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Contested prod. This article is a crude hoax: zero ghits; no-one of that name has received the Albert Einstein Award (which is not awarded by St. John's College); many incoherent statements such as the title of Frame's first publication; article created by previously warned vandals andy (talk) 23:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

This article must not be deleted yet again. Edward Frame is a tutor at St. John's College and is indeed author of the essay cited in the article as well as numerous others. He is himself a vocal opponent of the internet and especially wikipedia and his followers do their best to keep any information regarding him off the web. It would be a mistake to delete this article without first contacting St. John's.

Secondly He did not win The Albert Einstein Award but rather the "St. John's College Albert Einstein Award'' which is a different award. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkilani (talk • contribs) 23:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * So how do you explain your attempts to create "evidence" such as this edit?  andy (talk) 23:49, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - Vandalism, supported only by other vandalism. A very poor and unconvincing hoax, at that. AlexTiefling (talk) 00:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unconvincing hoax/childish vandalism. - Richard Cavell (talk) 01:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: this article was speedily deleted a short time ago under the title Edward Hartwell Frame. •Life of Riley (talk) 05:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete - Hash! Hoax! Does wikipedia have a comedy column? Orthorhombic (talk) 09:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - speedy deletion is not allowed for hoaxes, but in any case AfD is better since it prevents the user simply posting it back and makes it easier to get any of his other acts of vandalism deleted or reverted - there have been quite a lot, both as Mkilani (talk • contribs) and probably as 204.69.190.75 (talk • contribs). andy (talk) 10:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure it is. It's called pure vandalism, which is criterion G3 for speedy deletion. MuZemike  ( talk ) 19:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I went to school at Oxford with Ned Frame. We didn't talk much, since he was half my age, but I can assure you that he is the same prodigy described in the article. — 168.103.102.208 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I am a student at St John's College, and confirm that Mr. Frame is indeed a tutor here. Furthermore, the title of his first paper, while very technical, not incoherent at all, and is indeed one of the most affecting papers on the subject I have read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.69.190.75 (talk) 00:42, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is no such person on the faculty of St. John's, either at Annapolis or Santa Fe.  Almost certainly a St. John's student whose friends are having fun. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:00, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.