Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nehemiah Wright


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Phi Alpha Literary Society. Feel free to merge any usable content from the page history. T. Canens (talk) 19:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Nehemiah Wright

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Delete due to lack of notability demonstrated through significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Claim of notability is due to being a founder of Phi Alpha Literary Society. References offered include one where the subject is simply among others in a list;another includes him in a genealogical record of his wife's family; and the third, as a catalog distributed by the Society, are not significant or independent.  Cind. amuse  02:16, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Keep Subject is not only a founder of a historically important society, but he was elected county physician of Sangamon County, Illinois. In addition to holding public office, I have added two additional independent biographical sources. John Milito (talk) 00:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. None of the references provided equates to significant coverage. One reference is a paragraph, while others include him on a list among other names or again, in genealogical records. Being elected as county physician does not support notability. Honestly, considering the founding of a club or society as significant or notable is subjective. Regardless, taking part in a significant event of this nature does not establish notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage in reliable, independent sources.  Cind. amuse  19:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per nom. User:John Milito does not present a convincing argument for keeping.    ArcAngel    (talk) ) 07:31, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:BIO states: "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate." This man founded a society. This society is "highly significant" for several reasons, two of which follow. This organization counts among its members Abraham Lincoln, due to his presentation of a speech on request of the society. In addition, this organization won one of the first intercollegiate debates in the country.  John Milito (talk) 05:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. This man's article now draws from 11 sources. He has a passage devoted to his story in "History of Sangamon County, Illinois". John Milito (talk) 21:44, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable. He was one of the seven founders of a society which qualifies as notable under Wikipedia guidelines, but that does not make him individually notable. Notability requires significant coverage by independent reliable sources. He does rate a couple of paragraphs in a book about the history of his county, but IMO that does not add up to notability. This article is part of a WP:Walled garden of articles about the Phi Alpha Literary Society, and IMO the separate articles about the founders should be deleted unless they are shown to be notable for something else. Their mention in the primary article is enough. --MelanieN (talk) 18:19, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Wow. Go ahead and delete them all then. Every time I find a rule that supports my position I get three more thrown in my face. I have been to four libraries, and had to ask permission to get into archives.  I have slowly built a large pile of sources that NOTE these people's lives. They are NOTED in several published works, several published by universities. But according to three random people these historical figures are not NOTABLE enough, and you are going to delete them, losing my work, losing the network of sources I've built, and making it impossible to improve them any further in order to meet this vague litany of rules. You aren't even going to at least MOVE all of it to the main page? Give me a break. John Milito (talk) 18:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Phi Alpha Literary Society The article cites several sources about Nehemiah Wright that verifies the information in the article. Per WP:PRESERVE, a merge/redirect to the society he co-founded is not unreasonable. has spent much of his time working on these articles. It would be a shame to delete wholesale his hard work. I concur that most of these subjects do not pass Notability; however, there is no reason not to place several sentences from each of these articles into Phi Alpha Literary Society. Cunard (talk) 23:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I would have no problem with a redirect/merge as suggested by Cunard. --MelanieN (talk) 01:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge as above. Not WP:N in own right. NBeale (talk) 16:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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