Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neighbourhoods of Ciudad del Este


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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 21:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Neighbourhoods of Ciudad del Este

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This article is completely unsourced and a google search doesn't bring up any list of these neighbourhoods. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 21:24, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:05, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Paraguay-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:05, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:05, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:LISTN. All entries are redlinks. Ajf773 (talk) 11:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. I had a look in es:Categoría:Ciudad del Este to see if we could translate some stubs – there's nada. A list article with only redlinked titles is not a navigational help for the reader. Sam Sailor 18:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete fails LISTN and GEO requirements. cinco deL3X1 ◊distænt write◊  01:28, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as nom. Warm Regards, ZI Jony (talk) 19:37, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect, probably to Ciudad del Este, if not "Keep and develop". Or redirect specifically to a new section in that city article.  This would conform to wp:ATD; we are obligated to look for decent alternatives to deletion.  Sure the current list doesn't look great, it should probably have been blacklinks with some description about each neighborhood, and with a map of the neighborhoods, instead of its current bare list of redlinks appearance.  But Ciudad del Este is apparently the second largest city in Paraguay and has population around 300,000.  It has a long history and its neighborhoods can be significant in explaining/describing the city.  It could be reasonable to list the neighborhoods in a section in the city article.  It could be reasonable to restore the list-article eventually when Wikipedia gets around to developing more geo coverage in S. America in general, or when someone from Paraguay gets around to developing this specific topic.  Note there are zillions of members of Category:Lists of neighbourhoods. It is reasonable to save the edit history, and specifically its content being a list of neighborhood names, in edit history at the redirect.  No reason to punish whoever started this, just a little bit ahead of the curve. --Doncram (talk) 21:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, note the discussion so far mentions searching on lists of neighborhoods, and mentions looking for ES stubs on neighborhoods, but I don't think there is any assertion above about having searched for coverage about each of the specific neighborhoods mentioned. Many or all of them could easily be "list-item notable" for inclusion in a restored list-article eventually, with definition of their boundaries and description of why each one is important, etc.  I am reminded that for San Juan, Puerto Rico, whose Districts section, was questioned somehow, or for whom separate district articles were disputed, that I think it is important to define the barrios as places.  In part to allow for reasonable treatment of articles about bridges and roads between them, some of which are listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places.  For San Juan, a city of 400,000, there are 60 historic bridges or other sites which are covered in Wikipedia.  Eventually there should be equivalent coverage of modern arenas, other landmarks, and historic sites, and having the barrios defined is simply necessary, like having vocabulary, to describe them. --Doncram (talk) 22:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Google maps shows defined boundaries for numerous neighborhoods including:
 * "Barrio Centro, Ciudad del Este, Paraguay"
 * "Barrio Boqueron, Ciudad del Este, Paraguay"
 * "Barrio Boqueron, Ciudad del Este, Paraguay"
 * "Area 1, Ciudad del Este, Paraguay"
 * "Area 8, Ciudad del Este, Paraguay"
 * and so on, corresponding to the listed. These must therefore be official districts/communities defined by the city.  Try searching Google about Barrio Boqueron, say, and it is apparently a term used in many real estate listings.  On basis that Wikipedia is a gazetteer about places, and these are well-defined places/districts/communities, I think this list-article is actually best kept and developed. wp:NGEO.  Having the list-article is helpful in heading off stub articles being created for each of the separate places separately, too.  Without decent development of the list-article yet, redirect for now is not great but is better than outright deletion. --Doncram (talk) 22:29, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note, each of the current redlinks could be created as redirects to the list-article, then the list-article items changed to simple blacklinks. Then there are no unsightly redlinks.
 * And, umm, try searching on "departamentos en ciudad del este" or "barrios en ciudad del este". The deletion nominator was only trying to search in English, maybe? --Doncram (talk) 22:45, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete As per nom. Inightfox (talk) 02:54, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Struck !vote by blocked sock puppet. • Gene93k (talk) 11:45, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.