Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neil Cicierega (4th nomination)


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The result was   keep. Per WP:SNOW. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  04:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Neil Cicierega
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In short, this article fails to meet the standards set forth in WP:N. Neil is the creator of The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, a video which does manage to scrape together enough notability to warrant an article. But notability is not automatically inherited by association. To wit, the content in this article that could not be merged gracefully into the USoUD article can charitably be described as "non-notable fluff" - "video of the day" on Newground ain't exactly an Oscar, or even a Golden Globe for that matter. Badger Drink (talk) 20:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, he was covered in the Boston Globe, Salon.com, and the Toronto Star, all of which are notable. Shii (tock) 21:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * My grandmother was mentioned in the Washington Post and the New York Times, but this does not automatically make her notable. The articles you mention are centered around USoUD, with Neil's then-young age being the other item of interest. Enough for a section in USoUD, but an entire article? Really? Badger Drink (talk) 05:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I merged in USoUD, because Neil is clearly more important than just one of his works. Shii (tock) 01:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep; news articles on him online. Yes, mostly covering the Ultimate Showdown and its popularity, but surely there is a major review of one of Lemon Demon's albums somewhere. Tezkag72  私にどなる  私のはかい  22:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Subject is indeed notable, for reasons Shii has noted. seresin ( ¡? )  03:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. While the article itself is somewhat undernourished, Google News' results seem to show a sufficient degree of recognition from various media outlets. The article also shows this in excerpts such as "Several of Neil's short films have been featured on television shows such as G4's Attack of the Show!, The CW's Online Nation and CBBC's Chute!." and "The song topped the weekly "Funny Five" and became #1 of 2006 on the Dr. Demento Show.". To that end, though, Animutation and Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny should be merged with this, as they are both subtopics and more lacking in content. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 07:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with above comment and further not that USOUD does not seem to warrant its own article, list of fighters and crap like that seems like a ridiculous thing for an article. On the other hand, Potter Puppet Pals have gained enough attention that they should have their OWN article --Mattgcn (talk) 13:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- Hiding T 11:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I was all ready to say "delete", assuming from the nomination that Ultimate Showdown was this person's only notable work, but a look at the article reveals much more.  A merge to the Ultimate Showdown article would be inappropriate.  I'm tempted to agree with Haipa Doragon's recommendation to merge everything here and possibly even to create a Potter Puppet Pals article.  USoUD was one heck of a flash in the pan, but long-lasting notability appears elusive.  Powers T 14:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. At this point, Potter Puppet Pals (particularly The Mysterious Ticking Noise) is more notable than the Ultimate Showdown, with the millions of views each, the YouTube Awards, and appearances on Fox News, Good Morning America , and local news  .  With at least 3 internet memes that got attention from other media, I figure that's notable enough. Chiphead (talk) 16:47, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The features in television shows and news articles, and a couple of internet clips which seem pretty popular push him just over the notability threshold.--Sloane (talk) 18:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Neil is more than just TUSOUD.  Plus his works had appeared on notable outlets, as per the above arguments.  Furthermore, I do agree that the pages for TUSOUD and Animutation should be merged. -- MrBiggles42 (talk) 19:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per above.  Notable and referenced. EagleFan (talk) 01:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.