Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nelabhotla Venkateswarlu (2nd nomination)


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The result was   no consensus. WP:NPASR (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 07:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Nelabhotla Venkateswarlu
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Article fails WIKI guideline, reliable reference sources untraceable, subject was just a senior employee and he no longer work with the mentioned co emami too, the article was discussed earlier at AFD and wrongly misunderstood the subject as N. Venkat, Couple of people with the name N.Venkat are referred while ref search; one of them is also a management professor but not the same or relate to the subject mentioned in the article. One life to live (talk) 11:02, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep -, Hi, how did you know he was 'just a senior employee' and now 'no longer works' with Emami Co.? If he is not "N. Venkat", who is he then? I've just finished off my basic online research on subject, and it appears to me that they really are "N. Venkat" and the former CEO of Emami Co. The article was created in 2008 by an editor as, "Nelabhotla Venkateswarlu is the Chief Executive Officer of Emami House[..]", and then we see contemporary reliable sources that say, "N. Venkat is the CEO of the Emami House". Doesn't it suggest they both are the same person with latter being short form of lengthy one? The only case may be here that Mr. N. Venkat's full name may not be "Nelabhotla Venkateswarlu". However, if we look at one self-published source, it confirms their name as "Venkateswarlu Nelabhotla". Creator wanted to create an article about CEO of Emami house, -and that was N. Venkat that time (primary source). Did I miss something?


 * With all these findings, the only valid question now survives in-here is that, is Mr. N. Venkat eligible for inclusion on Wikipedia? I think, yes, for they have been discussed in detail in multiple secondary, independent and reliable sources (WP:GNG?), such as The Hindu, Business-Standard, Business-Standard2, Financial Express, Economic Times, VCCircle, Moneycontrolmay be unreliable!, Businesstoday, Business-Standard, Deccan Herald, Daily Excelsior, etc. With all these coverage of subject in the Indian daily English newspapers, if there are even half of this coverage in Indian daily Hindi and other languages newspapers (doesn't sound plausible?), subject easily qualify for inclusion on Wikipedia. Again please let me know if I'm missing something. Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  20:04, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, I also got the similar search results and few more as mentioned earlier about N. Vekat (professor) . Firstly subject was a senior employee i.e.“CEO" with Emami, after that he moved to Birla wellness and now looks like he started his own co. Vyome Biosciences. This is what the multiple coverage (also shared by you above) provide the information about the subject. This made me question about the Notability of the subject. The point what I am trying to make is “Yes" he was a CEO of one company and now co founder CEO of his own company and we do have sufficient coverage for this but what significant work the subject has done making him notable enough ? Just being a CEO of a company is notable enough ? I could not trace any coverage to answer this concern, hence requested this discussion.One life to live (talk) 09:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * India is home to at least 1.22 bn people, therefore it is very likely that a name would be shared between many people. Not only in here but in many fairly smaller countries too, a name is shared between many. So, there may be many "N. Venkat" around. It is not a problem however, if professor N. Venkat turns out to be notable for inclusion, we'll create them an article titled "N. Venkat (professor)".
 * We do not really look for what a person has done or accomplished in their field, but just were they written about in detail in multiple reliable sources independent of them?, that's just it. We assume that they must have done something notable that brought them coverage in many mainstream reliable sources independent of them. I find it irony in terms of TV actors, what the hell impact they have made on society and civilization that they are on Wikipedia. But, you know, coverage, -that's just what Wikipedia looks for and it further discourages editors doing their own research. If it answers your question, you may withdraw your nomination or wait for other editors comment (I'm suggesting withdraw just to save the community time). Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  10:15, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Plz don’t get confused with the professor N Venkat it was referred in context to the first nomination in which subject N Venkat was referred as management guru and concluded to keep the article. To save on that I made a note that other N Venkat are also present which should not be misunderstood to the subject under this discussion. I have a different view point with ref to your comment on TV actor I think they are part of wiki cos they are notable because of individual accomplishments and mentioned information is supported by reliable sources. I don’t think just any TV actor is part of wiki without meeting the guidelines. Coming to the initial discussion you have not answered how the subject is notable ? or is it the company Emami / Vyome Biosciences ? in any case I could not find any mention which makes the subject or the referred company adding to the notability of subject. The intention is not to waste community time but to make wikipedia better I am sure that’s what we all want isn’t it ?One life to live  (talk) 15:04, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh wait! I didn't answer the basic question, how subject qualifies for inclusion.. Again, they merit a Wikipedia article because they have been published in multiple WP:SECONDARY, independent and reliable sources and thus meet WP:BIO and WP:GNG -notability guidelines (please see sources provide above or in the article for the coverage). Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  15:27, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 04:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:16, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
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