Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nelio Guerson and Carlos Guerson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. There seems to be a consensus that the sources provided here are not of the caliber that would pass WP:MUSIC. NW ( Talk ) 23:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Nelio Guerson and Carlos Guerson

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Non-notable music duo, fails WP:MUSIC. A Google News Archive search for "Nelio Guerson" returns no reliable sources; likewise, a Google News Archive search for Carlos Guerson also returns no reliable sources. Cunard (talk) 19:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating the following albums and discography that were produced by Nelio Guerson and Carlos Guerson:


 * Delete per nom. There's also some serious conflict of interest here as well--User:Nelioguerson is the creator and main contributor of the articles.--Sandor Clegane (talk) 20:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep: main article at least. They are notable in their home country (unfortunately I can't read most of the sources).  The other articles may be on less solid ground, and should be merged back into the main article. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  —Cunard (talk) 17:21, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear Editors: Cunard, Sandor Clegane and Elen of The Roads, How are you ? We accept any advices in order to correct such big mistakes. The problem is, we did not know very well the guidelines of wikipedia. We are reading and reading again all rules in order to avoid such mistakes. Language barriers is also a problem. Shoud we give these articles to someone else to continue editing ? We are so sorry about that ! PS: We are collecting deeply more information about newspapers, awards and trophies. This takes too much time. May we add or give to someone else/editor ? We work as allways in a good faith ! Sincerely yours, (Nelioguerson (talk) 00:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC))


 * If you have any reliable sources (newspaper/magazine articles) about these two individuals, please scan the newspaper articles to your computer, and then upload them to Flickr or any other photo-sharing site. Cunard (talk) 06:43, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per lack of coverage by reliable sources Corpx (talk) 22:47, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep There are reliable sources like newspapers and magazines. They will be added on Flickr, Picasa or Commons throught scanned images. That's a good idea ! Okay, collecting info...PS: All info in Portuguese language... Nelioguerson (talk) 19:23, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's all right. I've listed this article at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Portugal so that editors who speak Portuguese can evaluate the sources when you post them here. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 19:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions.  —Cunard (talk) 19:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear Editors, Some scanned reports have been added according to your recommendation... See:

[Scanned report on Flickr] [Scanned Cover Magazine Classeaclassificados] [Expediente/Editorial] [Scanned report Encontro de Monarcas/Meeting of Monarchs Part 1 Newspaper Diario do Rio Doce] [Newspaper Scanned report Part 2] [Newspaper Scanned report part 3] There are more to add...

Thank you ever so much ! Sincerely yours, Nelioguerson (talk) 13:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've contacted two administrators who speak Portuguese to evaluate the sources. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 19:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment This is clearly a local interest subject. Right now, there aren't enough sources to meet WP:MUSIC, which requires multiple, non-trivial coverage. This doesn't count because it isn't about Nelio and Carlos or The Fire Boys, it just mentions that they were present at an event. Were the Fire Boys ever certified gold at the height of their fame? Did they release anything on one of the major labels of the 60s/70s/80s, such as CBS, Continental, RCA, Som Livre etc.? If you can get more sources, such as interviews and stories about the Fire Boys, not just mentioning them, that will probably be enough. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 21:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I was asked to look at the Portuguese-language sources. The best coverage these guys gets is an article from their local small-town paper. So, basically I agree with what User:Fvasconcellos says. The source is probably reliable, but if every local band or band members mentioned in the local paper is notable, let's make that explicit at WP:MUSIC, otherwise I gather that the consensus is to the contrary, and these local-interest and locally-known bands/members are not due WP articles. I think also, that no articles from the lively Brazilian music press nor the culture sections of big cities' periodicals seems to confirm the limit of their impact. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions.  —Cunard (talk) 00:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Mariagarciagoval (talk) 17:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC) — Mariagarciagoval (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep: They have reliable sources...
 * Comment This is User:Mariagarciagoval's first edit.--Sandor Clegane (talk) 18:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
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