Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nelson - Marek


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --MCB 07:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Nelson - Marek
Non-notable yacht design group; fails all three of WP:CORP's criteria because 1), there aren't multiple, non-trivial published works about it, 2), the company is not "listed on ranking indices of important companies," and 3), its stock price is not used to calculate market indices. Add to that, less than 500 ghits. Picaroon9288 21:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC) Note that Frank Lloyd Wright only generates 809 unique Google hits and the most famous yacht design team Sparkman & Stephens only generates 776 unique Google hits. At 66% of S&S, it seems that N-M could be considered very significant to this industry, as recognized by the web.
 * Delete No assertion of meeting WP:CORP in the article.
 * 63 unique Google hits for " Nelson - Merek" -wiki
 * Nothing in Google news search for Nelson - Merek
 * Forbes Bitmap Library turned up nothing for +Nelson +Merek +sailboat. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim   22:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous comments. Cbrown1023 00:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above and disruption by the author.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * COMMENTThe creator fo the article has placed a note on my talkpage saying that WP:CORP does not apply. This may be true, but whatever guideline one chooses, my !vote hinges on dearth of google hits which remains unchanged. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim  01:35, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep This proposal to delete under the Corp Criteria is not relevant to the article which is not about a "corporation" It is about a DESIGN TEAM (architects and engineeers) which is clearly notable within the yachting world (see Notability (people)): Painters, sculptors, architects, engineers, and other professionals whose work is widely recognized (for better or worse) and who are likely to become a part of the enduring historical record of that field).  Under this criterion the Nelson Marek team is notable; as marine architects and engineeers their work is widely recognized including an America's Cup winner and several prolific production designs, with one design exceeding 1000 hulls in service.  NOTE: both Nelson Marek and Nelson Merek are widely used spellings; however, the former is the correct spelling (discovered today during further research).
 * 452 UNIQUE google hits for "Nelson Marek" (correct spelling not Merek as above) 515 hits if added to the 63 hits for alterantive spelling "Merek", a common error in publications.

Kevin Murray 00:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Copied conversation from my talk page--
 * My Google seach shows 1000 hits
 * Hi, thanks for your note. I'm afraid 1000 google hits would not suffice to establish notability. WHen I enclose in brackets, I come up with 10,000 hits, of which 452 are unique. Those beyond 452 are repeats. 452 UNIQUE google hits for "Nelson Marek" Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim  02:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment. Kevin Murray has tried to change WP:CORP to make this article qualify. Also note that WP:CORP is only a special case of Notability, so the criteria of notability can be applied even if this team is not considered a company. — Saxifrage ✎ 04:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Having had a conversation with Kevin Murray, it appears that this was due to a simple misunderstanding of the purpose of the guideline page rather than any other reason. — Saxifrage ✎ 06:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.