Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nelson A. Rockefeller Center

Nelson A. Rockefeller Center was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP. It has subsequently been merged with and redirected to Dartmouth College. Rossami 00:14, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

A Dartmouth College department. Has had famous visitors. Dunc_Harris|&#9786; 18:31, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) This is not a student center.
 * Delete: It's the student center!  Sure, folks have gone there.  The same would be true of The AMOC at Emory, the Great Hall at UNC, the Student Center at UGA, etc.  You can't borrow notability from your husband/wife, or your visitors.  Was the "Iron Curtain" speech delivered there?  No redirect, as Rocky got other things named after him.  Geogre 18:50, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. --Elf-friend 19:49, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect and merge a short summary into Dartmouth College. (I would guess that the notables mentioned didn't just stop there to visit the john and buy a candy bar from the vending machine; they probably were invited speakers at those dinners. But possibly they were paid an honorarium for their attendance). Incidentally, if you want to see promotional language, take a gander at http://rockefeller.dartmouth.edu/about/index.html : "Located at a busy cross-roads of campus, the Rockefeller Center is a lively, intellectual gathering place for students and faculty. It is a catalyst for public policy research and education and prepares students for lives of leadership and service in a diverse and globally interdependent world." Give the author of the Wikipedia article credit for exercising some restraint. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 20:49, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to Dartmouth College student life. 21:21, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * It would be nice if people actually looked at the article before they vote to delete it.
 * It is a research institute. Now, it may not be notable, but at least figure out what it is before you trash it.--Samuel J. Howard 00:37, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * I read it. Both Dpbsmith and I seem to have missed what it is.  This article is so poorly written that it doesn't even indicate clearly what it is about is the conclusion I draw.  If we weren't so bombarded with these, I might have gone to Google to research the subject to provide what the author did not.  I might have spent the time trying to filter out the ad-speak in it.  To return to my original argument about notability, then, I'd ask about all the other policy centers at all the other universities in America?  Emory has The Carter Center, which deserves an article because of what it has done.  It has brokered peace agreements around the world, been the election monitor various places, etc.  Compare that to Rusk Center at the University of Georgia.  Many, many famous people have gone there, and it does good university work.  It is normal that way.  It would not be worthy of an article, IMO.  It is the burden of the article to explain significance, and to clearly indicate what it is about.  This article fails on both counts.  It's a place.  Famous people getting honorary doctorates have spoken there.  That doesn't make it Oxford Union. Geogre 04:26, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * The article's not much as it stands, but unlike most of what I've seen lately from Dartmouth, this probably has encyclopedic potential. keep. By the way, has anyone worked out exactly what is going on here? Was this a classroom assignment gone awry or was this just a bunch of people from one school who decided to spam the heck out of wikipedia? If it was an assignment, we'd do well to contact the faculty member and see if next time this can be done appropriately. Dartmouth is a rather good university, and surely a bunch of Dartmouth undergrads could actually write useful articles on encyclopedic topics. -- Jmabel 02:43, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: It was a computer science course assignment. The assignment sheet is here. (The due date was Aug. 20, so the worst of the onslaught is probably behind us now). A larger discussion can be found here. -- Kevyn 03:02, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Wow. So they nearly all on their own chose to write about campus trivia instead of encyclopedia-worthy topics. Wow. Sure lowers my opinion of Dartmouth. -- Jmabel 05:29, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * "nearly all on their own chose to write about campus trivia?" No, no, no. The latest word from the instructor is that nearly 200 articles were contributed. He happened to mention a couple indirectly in passing to me when I spoke to him; I looked at them and checked them out they were absolutely first rate. They would never come up for VfD in a million years. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 09:51, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. -Sean Curtin 04:34, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * Needs lots of cleanup and more content, but keep or, if no more content is corthcoming, merge/redir. +sj + 09:40, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. No reason to delete. anthony (see warning) 14:13, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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