Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nelson Payano


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The result was   keep. Withdrawn NW ( Talk ) 13:42, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Nelson Payano

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Minor league baseball player who passes WP:ATHLETE because of five appearances with the Kansas City Royals and the Chunichi Dragons in 2010. However, note that WP:ATHLETE says "If the article does meet the criteria set forth below, then it is likely that sufficient sources exist to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article...Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted; conversely, the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept." I cannot find any evidence that there exist sufficient independent reliable sources that cover the subject in depth enough to merit an article, as opposed to a simple listing of facts which can be found in any baseball statistics database. NW ( Talk ) 22:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep: Obviously, there's the presumption of notability due to Payano having played in Nippon Professional Baseball. Given that presumption, independent reliable sources will for the player will likely be in Japanese, and thus perhaps will take a little more work than finding them in English. Unless you've done such a search, you can't present this for deletion for lack of evidence of coverage. -Dewelar (talk) 00:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note that I've expanded the article substantially since my vote. I found some fair sources for it. -Dewelar (talk) 00:46, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Beyond the presumption of inherent notability for such athletes, the article provides adequate sources to establish notability. Alansohn (talk) 12:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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