Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nemesis (Transformers) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. No prejudice towards a merge discussion. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:44, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Nemesis (Transformers)
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This does not establish notability independent of Transformers through the inclusion of real world information from reliable, third party sources. Most of the information is made up of plot details better suited to Wikia. There is no current assertion for future improvement of the article, so extended coverage is unnecessary. TTN (talk) 22:31, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess this falls under G4 for speedy deletion per the old AfD. TTN (talk) 22:34, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Not true. WP:CSD states that G4 only applies when the article is A sufficiently identical and unimproved copy, having any title, of a page deleted via its most recent deletion discussion. This page has undergone quite a lot of change since the 2010 AfD. AfD is the appropropriate venue. --Mark viking (talk) 23:18, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

*Keep per research that suggests this nomination is a case of WP:TROLLING. --131.123.123.136 (talk) 14:15, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've stricken the above opinion posted by a banned user—see the most recent SPI at Sockpuppet investigations/A Nobody/Archive. Deor (talk) 22:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:45, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:45, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - no reliable independent sources exist for this topic. --Simone 17:21, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:50, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

 Weak Keep - The subject seems to be focal enough to the series as to just toe the line on this side of deletion. Article obviously needs work, though. Human.v2.0 (talk) 09:01, 3 October 2013 (UTC) 
 * Keep as the article has sufficiently improved since first deletion nomination. If you merged it, it would probably merge to List of Transformers spacecraft. Mathewignash (talk) 11:35, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per, no reason for deletion, we do not delete all of the Transformers articles because there notable. JJ98 (Talk) 00:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFF, WP:ITSNOTABLE. - The Bushranger One ping only 13:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:33, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to List of Transformers spacecraft; there is insufficient out-of-universe notability for this to be a standalone article, however as part of the list it is fully appropriate. This one is borderline as Human.v2.0 points out, however I don't believe the coverage is sufficient to avoid a merge. - The Bushranger One ping only 13:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to List of Transformers spacecraft; If anyone can point to a reliable source that discusses real world information about the topic then I would support keeping it, but the current version of this article doesn't seem to meet any of the criteria for having its own page. --Jpcase (talk) 20:39, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.