Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nemra (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Move to draft.* This has to be sourced before it can come back to main space. Spartaz Humbug! 05:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ''(*Draft:Nemra (band).) – Athaenara ✉  00:27, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Nemra (band)

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I am not sure the article is notable enough to be in Wikipedia. It says that the band's songs got some awards, however, there are no sources for that. Harut111 (talk) 11:40, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2018 January 23.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 12:05, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: Non-notable band and poorly sourced. Fails WP:BAND. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 17:28, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep It is possible that you have confused VMA with another international competition. There is also a competition VMA(Van Music Awards) in Armenia, and here you can find information about it http://vmafm.am/about-project/, and here about the awards http://vmafm.am/category/2013/,http://vmafm.am/category/2015/november-2015/,http://vmafm.am/category/participants-2017/september-2017/ .If there are more questions, please, do not hesitate to write and please, mention the sources the article lacks. Dreamer14513181 (talk) 19:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - I recommend giving this article time to develop because there is evidence that the band has been mentioned as appearing at festivals and award shows in their country, and have gained some basic notability there. But the article needs to be improved significantly, and with some unnecessary details removed. To the person working on the article (Dreamer14513181), look up the Wikipedia terms fancruft and reliable sources to see why some people here are opposed to the article's existence. Also consider calling upon the Rescue Squad for assistance. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 19:21, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 21:01, 30 January 2018 (UTC) Thanks a lot for your help  DOOMSDAYER 520</b>. We have tried to remove the unnecessary details and have added the reliable sources, please check it out, so the article becomes verifiable. Dreamer14513181 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:38, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of help (but you can't vote in this debate twice). The article is improving, but still quite dependent on Facebook and YouTube as verification that certain events happened. If they cannot be verified any other way, they may not be notable events. --- <b style="color: DarkOrchid"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (Talk&#124;Contribs) 22:24, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete Performing at festivals is not enough for WP:NBAND - the awards probably do not meet the current criteria Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. - I think this is a bit unfair to those may win awards that are important in their country, but this is the current critera. These criteria may help establish notability for these types of bands: Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. or Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network. but I haven't seen any WP:RS for this. The music videos are mentioned but I can't find any source besides YouTube. I don't think the article can be kept unless an independent RS can be found that establishes notability. Also noting the article creator has voted twice in this AfD and one of the votes should be struck. Seraphim System ( talk ) 23:55, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That said, I am not sure when this AfD will close, but I think if they are selected to represent Armenia at Eurovision on Feb. 25th, this would be enough for notability. If the AfD closes before this, I think the best thing would be to userify or move to draftspace and the article can be recreated when notability can be established with independent, secondary sources. Seraphim System  ( talk ) 00:00, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Draftify or userfy. I've looked at the sources in both the English and the Armenian articles, and cannot see anything WP:RS to justify a keep vote. I would vote delete but for one thing: Armenia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2018. If they are selected on 25 February 2018, IMO they should pass WP:NBAND. If their single "I'm a Liar" charts in Armenia and/or gets placed on rotation, IMO they may pass. Narky Blert (talk) 12:19, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Draftify or userfy changing vote, there is a chance this will pass NBAND in the future, but it does not right now. Seraphim System ( talk ) 12:23, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My point entirely. It would be a pity to delete all the work that went into this article should the band sail through WP:NBAND in just three weeks time. Narky Blert (talk) 22:07, 6 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep I think the article should stay as the band is one of the most notable rock bands in Armenia and is getting more and more famous every day. Besides, they are the first to represent Armenia in an international festival, they also had concerts in Georgia and they are always busy with festivals and concerts. I think they have changed a lot in Armenian rock industry, that is why the article should stay. Susanna ghazoyan (talk) 18:52, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * So, add some WP:RS sources, in any language. As of now, there aren't any. Narky Blert (talk) 21:57, 6 February 2018 (UTC)


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