Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neuköln


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. It appears there are multiple reliable sources with in-depth coverage of the topic, and therefore GNG is met. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Neuköln

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A non-notable track from David Bowie's 1977 album "Heroes". While it does have a few reliable sources, the information present can easily be added into the album article, which I plan to expand upon one of these days. Other than that it doesn't appear to be notable in its own right. – zmbro (talk) 19:12, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  userdude 19:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment - "I plan to expand upon one of these days" would seem to be a poor deletion rationale... Caro7200 (talk) 19:25, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect - Point taken, per all below. Caro7200 (talk) 12:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That's clearly not the rationale. The rationale is it "doesn't appear to be notable in its own right" per WP:NSONGS and the information currently in the article can be moved to the album article. – zmbro (talk) 19:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to "Heroes" (David Bowie album) – there's little to say about this instrumental track on its own, but no reason why it shouldn't be redirected to its parent album. I think Zmbro was talking about expanding the album article as an aside, not in connection with this AfD. Richard3120 (talk) 20:12, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 20:12, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was being a little sarcastic. My personal opinion is that it's not ideal practice to subtract well-referenced, well-viewed information with the intention of adding some of it to a "parent" article at some nebulous future date. Caro7200 (talk) 20:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to "Heroes" (David Bowie album): Not all songs in the album are notable. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 06:48, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - None of the arguments above get to the issue of whether this song meets our notability guidelines or not. From my own bookshelves, Peter Doggett's The Man Who Sold the World, Nicholas Pegg's The Complete David Bowie and David Buckley's The Complete Guide to the Music of David Bowie all have an entry specifically on this song.  James Perone's The Words and Music of David Bowie has a good size paragraph analyzing the song.  I am sure there are plenty more given that this is a song from more than 40 years ago (and additional references are already in the article) but this is enough to demonstrate notability. Rlendog (talk) 01:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable track. I am persuaded by Rlendog's arguments. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 22:27, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect *Merge and redirect. the content does not pass WP:NSONGS criteria for an independent article. The information here could be easily contained on the parent album's page. Per WP:OTHERSTUFF, the fact that other pages for songs from the album exist is the EXACT REASON WHY THIS ONE SHOULD NOT. Topics do not inherit notability from other related topics. Additionally, articles about songs from this album should not overly/heavily rely purely on published sources. To be honest Joe_the_Lion, Sons of the Silent Age, V-2 Schneider, Sense of Doubt, Moss Garden, Neuköln and The Secret Life of Arabia should all be merged. → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 18:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't understand the comment that "articles about songs from this album should not overly/heavily rely purely on published sources." If we do not rely on published sources what do we rely on? Rlendog (talk) 12:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.