Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neve Te Aroha Ardern Gayford


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Non-notable minor child. No prejudice against creation of a redirect, but there was no consensus for that in this discussion – some participants explicitly opposed it, while others recommended a redirect to the article about one of the parents (and both parents have articles). RL0919 (talk) 18:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Neve Te Aroha Ardern Gayford

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Notability is not inherited. Neither the person, nor his/her birth, has significance. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Withdraw. Sorry.  The correct result is a speedy redirect to Jacinda Ardern.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 18:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Withdrawal invalid, because of the subsequent "Delete" !votes. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 20:06, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, no need for a redirect. Both her parents have articles, and anyone knowing her full name is likely to know the names of at least one of her parents.- gadfium 19:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete I believe that no need for a redirect or Withdraw, Both her parents have articles. Not Enough Establish notability person. Fails WP:GNG.~ Nocturnal   talk  19:49, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete without redirect. Notability of children is not inherited from that of their parents. As a general practice we do not name children in parent articles either (unless the child satisfies the notability requirements). Ajf773 (talk) 19:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. The standards for the existence of a redirect are less than for the existence of an article, and I wouldn't object to the creation of a redirect, but "Delete", "Delete and Redirect", or "Redirect" are all acceptable outcomes to me.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 20:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Neve doesn't need an article until she herself becomes notable. pcuser42 (talk) 21:35, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Neve has major significance in New Zealand. She is the baby of a sitting Prime Minister. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cole brazier (talk • contribs) 10:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Cole brazier (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. ミラP 15:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Contested PROD. No longer a uBLP but is a long way off from meeting GNG.  Schwede 66  17:59, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Even Barron Trump does not have a stand alone article, and he is a teenager who has actually been interviewed, had his actions commented on in news stories and the like. Personally I think we should also delete the articles on all non-ruling members of royal families who are not at least 18/died before 18, but that is a slightly distinct issue from here, and here the subject is clearly non-notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Jacinda Ardern. The child's main claim to fame is that she is the daughter of the PM, born while she was in office. She does not currently have any notability independent of this. Nick-D (talk) 05:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable child.  scope_creep Talk  16:38, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect per WP:CHEAP to Jacinda Ardern. Our core users will no doubt be scanning Google for this odd name. Delete if and only if you must. Bearian (talk) 01:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable. Zawed (talk) 04:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete No justification for redirect. DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 07:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.