Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nevergrind


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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 08:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Nevergrind

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:WEB and WP:V: non-notable browser game with no references based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. The current sources are all primary (the official website and an interview without commentary), unreliable (Indie Game Mag and the previously-mentioned Cliqist, neither of which have any reputation as reliable sources), crowd-funded and user-submitted (IndieDB and Kickstarter), and portal sites (Crazy Games and Kongregate). I am unable to find any sources vetted by WikiProject Video games and searches using both the WPVG reliable and situational custom Google searches returned "No Results". A normal Google search finds the typical social media, forums, and spam sites. Note that the article creator, User:Maelfyn, is the self-described "developer of Nevergrind and founder of Neverworks Games". (I have also warned him about WP:COI. If the article survives AfD, it will have to be rewritten to remove POV and spammy language.) Ironically, the game looks fun—probably something I'd play if I weren't elbow deep in several other games—but that isn't currently part of our notability requirements. Woodroar (talk) 00:20, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.  Woodroar (talk) 00:22, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. There are no worthwhile redirect targets. Please me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. –  czar   01:46, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Woodroar. I couldn't find any additional sources, and certainly not any that were reliable and third-party. It's worth noting that Indie Game Mag's review lists at the bottom a call for developers to submit their games for possible feature, meaning that their process of selecting games to review is not particularly selective. Either way, a single review from a non-mainstream site does not establish notability. ~ RobTalk 01:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, it's not a great source at all. User:Czar actually started a discussion about IGM over a year ago with some solid arguments against. Woodroar (talk) 02:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I can't find anything to show that this game is ultimately notable enough for an article. It looks like it exists... and that's about it. If I thought that there would be a chance of this surviving AfD I'd re-write it, but I can't find anything that would show notability. I don't see where any of the typical gaming RS outlets have given this any media attention - not even a routine notification that the game is in production or that they held a Kickstarter campaign. (Although it's not for lack of trying - the game's creator does seem to be trying hard to drum up interest.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  04:48, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Please delete this article. Sorry for wasting your time. Thank you. Maelfyn (talk) 12:04, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * As a note to others who may be inclined to nominate for speedy deletion under G7, this is probably not eligible because an IP editor made substantial edits to the article. ~ RobTalk 13:42, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


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