Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Afrikan Black Panther Party


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:44, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

New Afrikan Black Panther Party

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I tried to find references beyond the sites which are directly supportive of this type of political movement. The founder is mentioned at Prison Radio, but the movement gets practically no mentions. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 23:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - I found no news sources and the references in the article do not seem to be reliable third party sources. - MrX 01:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. This seems to be the project of a guy named Rashid who's in jail and is protesting the conditions there. I could find no evidence in a search of any coverage in reliable sources (the only results were some self-published material and a website/blog of questionable reliability and independence). Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. --Batard0 (talk) 11:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - I favor the lowest possible impediment to inclusion for all political parties, their leaders, and their youth sections regardless of size or ideology — much like we default to auto-keep for towns, rivers, high schools, and professional athletes of confirmed existence. This is the sort of information that SHOULD be in a comprehensive encyclopedia. If you want a policy-based rationale, chalk it up under WP:IGNOREALLRULES — use common sense to improve the encyclopedia. Bearing in mind that my view here remains a minority perspective at this time, sources to follow... Carrite (talk) 16:32, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Coverage of a prison hunger strike in Virginia by party leader Rashid Johnson in the San Francisco Bay View. Carrite (talk) 16:44, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * A piece on the NABPP, "Black Revolutionary Communism Today," in the political journal Upping the Anti, issue 13. Carrite (talk) 16:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Blurb on a Washington, DC art exhibition accompanying a book release by Rashid Johnson. Carrite (talk) 16:51, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You make some interesting points about inclusion, and I would be in favor of keeping this content if it caught the notice of even one small independent news organization. The first reference that you listed (above) was written by Rashid, the second is of questionable editorial integrity (may be good - I just don't know) and the third seems to exist solely to promote the book. - MrX 18:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete No indication of notability. I'd oppose Carrite's idea for political parties since people are creating a great many non-notable political parties every year.  No need to open the floodgates.  --Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Article is about a fringe organization. "A Wikipedia article about a fringe view (or organization) should not make it appear more notable than it is."  The organization is not notable with no coverage by independent reliable sources.  I agree with MrX that none of the sources mentioned above is independent and reliable.  The Black Panther Party objects to the group using the name.  Like Carrite, I favor inclusion of all significant political parties but this article gives undue weight to a few people who have done no activities that might make the group a political party.  Note that Rashid Johnson is truly notable; Kevin 'Rashid' Johnson, incarcerated criminal, is not.  This article does not belong in Wikipedia.  In the unlikely event that the group becomes notable, an article will be created then. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ · cont) Join WER 23:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - What references are in the article are not enough and I cannot find enough in Reliable Sources to pass WP:GNG. Nothing in Goolge news archives and only minor mention in anything in Google books. Hoppingalong (talk) 02:46, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not much notable as I also do not find enough sources to make notable.  TruPepitoM  Talk To Me  11:39, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
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