Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Demons (I See Stars album)


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:20, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

New Demons (I See Stars album)

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Non-notable forth-coming album. No evidence of charting or in depth coverage in independent reliable sources. PROD removed without improvement. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Keep - Doesn't fail any notability guidelines I know of. All info I see in article is properly sourced. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:12, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Qualified Keep – The article is not properly sourced, 75% is cites are 1st party and 50% are multi-media. Citation coverage is meduim, IMO: The 1st six 'lead' sentences (loaded with proper-nouns and facts), are un-sourced, as is genre. [snag list not exhaustive]  Copy-editing has improved, but is not pristine, again, as one might expect for a pre-launch topic, with a small/dedicated contributor crew.  I see these issues as indicative of a future fan-page risk. –DjScrawl (talk) 00:20, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * However, the above indicates (future) work-required – not lack of, soon anticipated, notability. Reasoned as follows: the band have 131,877 listeners on Last.FM, for scale they are ranked #14 nintendocore band and within two days of the album being leaked, is has reached 534 Last.FM listeners (est' 0.4% of the band's total audience). –DjScrawl (talk) 00:20, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * Do you have a reliable source that it's been leaked? Comments on a youtube video don't cut it. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:16, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:18, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * At least academically, excellent point! Since, the 'leak assertion' relies of a page-cite I'm, as above, sceptical about. –DjScrawl (talk) 12:10, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * This'll be clearer, I expect, on Monday PM (GMT) - when Last.FM's done it's weekly chart munging. Meanwhile, non-single-track, Ten Thousand Feet (see 'Listening Trend') shows an indicative spike. –DjScrawl (talk) 12:10, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * NB: It is also circumstantially evident that I've no axe to grind, here, beyond best practice. –DjScrawl (talk) 12:10, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep for now. Album by a notable band on a significant label that is released in less than two weeks time. The band's previous albums have charted and received coverage, so this one will almost certainly do the same. Bringing these to AfD is a bit of a waste of everybody's time - you're not going to get a consensus to delete within 7 days, which means the album will be out, very likely along with associated coverage, before the discussion ends. If there's nothing to indicate notability a few weeks after it's out that would be a different matter. --Michig (talk) 08:36, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I invite yo to read WP:NOTCRYSTAL. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:16, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You should perhaps read it yourself - it deals with speculation in articles about future events, not opinions expressed in AfD discussions. This album's release in confirmed. --Michig (talk) 09:34, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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