Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New England Interstate Route 19


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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 15:59, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

New England Interstate Route 19

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This article is for a New England highway that was supposedly defined in a road plan in 1922 but apparently never publicly signed. It has remained unsourced for nine years. I don't believe this passes the general notability guideline in its current state, and even if it does, sources need to be found to confirm the claims made here. —Tim Pierce (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unless some sources can be found to verify. - SimonP (talk) 16:31, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - The subject of individual New England interstate routes is notable so the article should not be deleted on that grounds. However, sources need to be found and some of these sources may not be online and readily available to most people. If someone can find the 1922 road plan and verify this route was planned that would help a lot.  Dough   4872   17:30, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Is a road that was planned, but never deployed, really still notable in its own right? I'm honestly puzzled about this. —Tim Pierce (talk) 19:14, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * If a notable road was planned but never built or assigned its number it is still notable for coverage. We have articles about Interstate Highways that were never built.  Dough   4872   15:05, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess the question I should be asking is: is a road notable if no reliable sources can be found? I think that ipso facto the answer is no. —Tim Pierce (talk) 04:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge: Either the article should be kept, or all of the NEIR pages should be merged into a list(s). Either way, the appropriate sources must be found. Charlotte Allison (Allen/Morriswa) (talk) 17:35, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Maine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:38, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Hampshire-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:38, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:39, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete per nom and SimonP (find sources!) –Fredddie™ 22:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:18, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete unsourced. --Rschen7754 13:29, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment The only source I know of is the list of New England routes, including the cities they pass through, on the inside back cover of the 1925 ALA Automobile Green Book (Vol. 1). I no longer have access to this source and am currently trying to get it through an interlibrary loan. In any case, this is such a minor road that it probably does not deserve its own article anyway. --Polaron | Talk 19:22, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I managed to temporarily get a copy of the book through interlibrary loan. The information on the New England Highway System is on pp. 28-30. The routing of Highway 19 is listed there. However, such pole marking (No. 19) is not used in any of the actual turn by turn guides the route supposedly goes through. These instead appear to be marked using a combination of Maine State Highway 116 and 122 for the non-overlapped portions of the route. The scanned pages are here (pp.28-29) and here (pp.30-31). I still think it does not deserve a stand-alone article though. --Polaron | Talk 23:20, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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