Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New England Traverse


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The result was delete. If the sources cited as evidence of notability are not in fact independent... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:48, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

New England Traverse

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Fails GNG. No evidence found of the notability of this trail. No independent sources found that use the name. John Fox put a route together out of several existing trails and decided to call it the New England Traverse. See the discussion of a talk about that says "Mr. Fox discussed his self-devised route consisting of the Appalachian Trail, the Long Trail and the Long Path" https://www.facebook.com/events/1391455547789631/. The two sources in the article consist of a magazine article by Mr Fox, and a blog posting by Mr Fox. Very likely a COI article since it was created by an SPA who is only interested in John Fox and the trail. Meters (talk) 05:35, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Response
Article is referenced by multiple third party independent sources and is in no way in violation of a COI. "A Self Devised Route" has no bearing on the justification of the third party references and sources. Furthermore this page is about a trail and not about any individual or group of individuals. Member who proposed AFD has made continual disruptive edits to the authors page(s) in the past and has posted authors deletions on their personal page. This is in violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If an administrator would please remove the delete notice it would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Climber5678 (talk • contribs) 05:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: User:Climber5678 (talk • contribs)  is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. My mistake. Article was created by User:Climber5583 but editing is now by User:Climber5678 Meters (talk) 07:27, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I welcome anyone to look at my edits. I made exactly one edit to this article before taking it to AFD. I added the name of the author to a ref Meters (talk) 06:15, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete This artificial notion of a hiking trail combining parts of three notable trails was created by John Fox, and the two references in the article were written by John Fox. Therefore, the references are not independent, and the topic is not notable. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:59, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cullen's good reasoning. Not notable.  Further the route is an invention and someone's using wikipedia to try to substantiate it, which almost calls for a speedy delete under A11.  --Lockley (talk) 19:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep for reasons stated in response. Both referenced sources are independent third party publications both in print and online. --Climber5678
 * They are not independent. One is an article written by John Fox, and the other is a trip report blog by John Fox describing his route/hike. Meters (talk) 20:58, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Not seeing enough to satisfy WP:GNG. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 00:20, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient coverage in independent RS. I did find a New England traverse "seismic traverse" in a book on mountain tectonics, but that is something else. MB 05:05, 5 July 2017 (UTC)


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