Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New England prep school


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 16:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

New England prep school

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Unreferenced OR essay. No demonstration that college preparatory schools in New England are inherently different from college preparatory schools in other regions. Durova 311 19:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete. The entire idea is ridiculous. Yes, the older and more prestigious prep schools in the States are mostly in New England, but the older and more prestigious public schools in England are mostly in southern England and we don't have a 'Southern English Public School' article, do we? Now, if someone wanted to create a new article about prep schools in the United States, including their development in New England, separate from the current article on university-preparatory schools around the world, that might not be such a bad idea. PatriciusCoquus (talk) 21:04, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 14:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 17:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, edit heavily and rename to List of New England preparatory schools. Most of the article is, of course, POV/OR. However, the list at the end is both verifiable and useful. I suggest removing all the text and converting to a list page. TerriersFan (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Actually, prep schools in New England may be a little different than in the rest of the nation. They tend to be very old, many dating back to the 1700s, and many have ties with Ivy League universities, particularly Harvard.  There's an iconic status in that some of these schools are famous throughout the US, while similarly selective prep schools in other regions of the country are not. Squidfryerchef (talk) 15:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep: This needs citation, improvement, and removal of any unverifiable opinion, but concept and notability is sound. I added one cite, fyi (can someone get the references to appear below table, what did i do wrong? --Milowent (talk) 21:27, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unless a strong source is found: The article as it currently exists has a lot of truth in it, but is essentially original research and it is strongly infused with POV. The topic is not "New England prep schools" in general, but rather the subset of elite and exclusive New England prep schools. There are many more preparatory schools in New England that aren't on this list, presumably because they enroll only girls (e.g., Miss Porter's School), aren't considered quite so elite as the ones on the list (e.g., Berkshire School), or are strictly day schools (although the article doesn't indicate it, the schools mentioned are all primarily boarding schools). If this definition/categorization can be supported by reliable sources (not including The Preppy Handbook or similar cruft), then keep it, but don't keep it unless there is a third-party source for classifying schools in the manner of the article. --Orlady (talk) 23:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC) Followup: I found the kind of source I was looking for: the 1987 book Preparing for Power: America's Elite Boarding Schools, but it's not specifically about New England prep schools. (Schools outside New England that seem to be mentioned, based on the limited preview I could see online, include Lawrenceville School in New Jersey, The Hill School in Pennsylvania, Fountain Valley School in Colorado, and The Webb Schools in California.) I also found an article in Forbes that is shorter, but is not limited to either boarding schools or New England. I don't think there's RS support for defining the topic in this manner. --Orlady (talk) 01:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.