Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Haven school Skittles incident (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Secret account 18:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

New Haven school Skittles incident
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This article was previously nominated for deletion in the heat of events, resulting in a no consensus. I, like many of the editors who offered an opinion in that AfD, do not feel that this event is of substantial notability for Wikipedia, primarily regarding WP:NOTNEWS.  Grsz  11  03:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete this is just news. It's now the media-rich future and every incident like this generates 15 minutes of fame for someone. JJL (talk) 03:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete despite gaining some media coverage, it essentially is an article about a news event. We don't create articles for lots of events that are covered in several newspapers etc. Michellecrisp (talk) 03:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete newsworthy is not noteworthy, and stories about schools overreacting to something are a dime a dozen. Resolute 03:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I believe the issue of whether this is only a news story ( albeit one which was picked up by the national and international media ) hinges on whether there exist any analysis pieces written about it after the breaking-news coverage of mid-March '08 died down, or whether anybody used it as an example in a book. There are a number of journals like The Chronicle of Higher Education and some specialized magazines for school administrators which we could look at.  So far I can find a short opinion piece in National Review from that April, which may count towards showing the incident was of interest after the initial flurry.  Otherwise, this is well-written, can it be transwiki'ed to Wikinews or merged to an article about the New Haven schools or Skittles candy? Squidfryerchef (talk) 03:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * keep- There's plenty there to show lasting notability. I see no reason to delete. Umbralcorax (talk) 03:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as it belongs be on a news site, not here. – Alex43223T 06:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep- There is enough here of value, and I am swayed by the arguments in the previous AfD which are compelling. Nothing said here refutes the arguments in the last AfD, and I don't feel things should just keep being nominated until the desired result is achieved.  It was only March when the last AfD was started, and frankly I'm astonished it wasn't closed as keep.JJJ999 (talk) 07:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not news. This is a passing news event. Nothing to see here, move along. RayAYang (talk) 07:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:NOT says: "Current consensus is that Wikipedia articles are not simply: News reports. Wikipedia considers the historical notability of persons and events. News coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, but not all events warrant an encyclopedia article of their own. Routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article. [...] While including information on recent developments is sometimes appropriate, breaking news should not be emphasized or otherwise treated differently from other information. Timely news subjects not suitable for Wikipedia may be suitable for our sister project Wikinews." - Mgm|(talk) 09:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wikinews Based on the above comment, there doesn't appear to be any encyclopedic content/lasting effects from this event. No lasting changes in the laws of what schools can forbid or any trials of kids suing their school for what they did. - Mgm|(talk) 09:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Transwiki. A sad tale of the consequences of health fascism: but there are some living person biography issues here too.  Bad enough that a high school student is disciplined for the heinous crime of selling a bag of candy to another inmate: but it doesn't put him on the same shelf as Aristotle, or the incident on the same footing as the Abraham Lincoln assassination or even the Boston Molasses Disaster. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep based upon the evidence presented by Squidfryerchef that there is discussion regarding this incident in at least one notable journal after-the-fact. The fact the incident also garnered international attention and brought up the issue of appropriate food in school can't be ignored as this may well be supported by other Wikipedia articles. If there are BLP issues they can be addressed in the article, although BLP does not come into play if an article is sourced by non-trivial references and contains correct information that was widely reported. I have to object, with respect, to Smerdis of Tlön's comparing of this article to longstanding events from decades ago. First, it's just a mirror of the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS argument we aren't supposed to use, plus it's not fair to compare an incident like this which only happpened a few months ago to events that have gone into historical record over a period of decades and centuries. 23skidoo (talk) 17:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. When you're ever jailed for breathing, remember good ole days when a kid could eat candy and walk away with it. The time pattern of the media coverage is exactly what is expected of a "harmless" administrative abuse case without a pending court drama: a week of tongue-and-cheek circulation, then it's forgotten and left to float in left-wing blogs. It's not a solid argument for deletion. NVO (talk) 17:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete pe the policy WP:NOT and the essay WP:NOTNEWS which preceded it. This incident got news coverage for 3 days the past march. This is an encyclopedia, not a weekly summary of water-cooler stories. There are similar idiotic cases of "Zero tolerance" every week in the U.S. This might find a home there as a selective merge to a section on examples cited by the media. Edison (talk) 18:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:NOT. These type of happenings have no encyclopedic value whatsoever. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete the Rainbow per above and per reasons in previous debate. Not notable then, not notable now.  The renomination is appreciated.  Mandsford (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The article may have had a slim chance of notability in March if it had led on to other events of similar nature, or prompted an anti-candy-discrimination law. I haven't seen or found any evidence that it led to even a change in the school's rules, let alone that of the district. As of now, it doesn't appear to be an event that will be remembered, noted in history or even the short-term future. While it is referenced in reliable sources, many international newspapers pick up stories like this as light-hearted humour, or a 'Look how crazy this school/country/world is' piece. While it is an interesting, slightly humorous yet slightly worrying story about the ever expanding bureaucracy, this is a minor news story. \ / (⁂) 08:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


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