Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Politics Australia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:19, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

New Politics Australia

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The subject does not pass WP:GNG. Most of the current sources are just links to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. The remaining links are a WP:TRIVIALMENTION from the The Latch, a WP:PRIMARY source containing a transcript of the show, and two short mentions that aren't WP:INDEPENDENT of the show because they are from guests of the show. And then of course the couple of sources about the books, which don't even mention the podcast or are just primary sources. The show does not WP:INHERIT notability from it's guests or hosts. The hosts don't have Wikipedia articles so there doesn't appear to be a clear merge or redirect target. The article was proded last November. Doing a few Google searches, I'm unable to find sources that would demonstrate notability. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism, News media, Radio, Entertainment, Politics, Internet,  and Australia. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, I was also unable to find any sources that would contribute to a GNG pass. A search under "New Politics Podcast Zoe Daniel" for example, turned up articles on other podcasts interviewing Daniels, but no coverage of this one doing so. Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:26, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * A search for "New Politics Podcast Zoe Daniel" brings up this result: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=zoe+daniel+new+politics+podcast
 * It includes the member of parliament’s website, as well as the New Politics podcast: https://www.zoedaniel.com.au/2021/12/09/new-politics-podcast-the-end-of-the-year-in-politics-and-a-voice-of-goldstein-takes-flight-9th-dec-2021/
 * Jim Chalmers is the federal Treasurer of Australia. A search for "jim chalmers new politics podcast", results in this search: https://www.google.com/search?q=jim+chalmers+new+politics+podcast&client=firefox-b-d&ei=2P7xY-3HI-TM2roP1ciXsAU&ved=0ahUKEwjtk5H3tKH9AhVkplYBHVXkBVYQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=jim+chalmers+new+politics+podcast&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIICCEQoAEQwwRKBAhBGAFQtwhYtxJg7RNoAnAAeAGAAZECiAHHEZIBBTAuOS4zmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
 * including a link to the Treasurer’s website site, including the full transcript: https://jimchalmers.org/latest-news/transcripts/new-politics-podcast-12-02-22/
 * The statements made by Devonian Wombat and the reasons made for deletion are not correct. EdanTabain (talk) 10:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Of course, a podcast is going to link to Apple podcasts. The three published books directly refer to the podcast – "New Politics has released two publications based on the podcast series and published articles". What else needs to be added here? All the links are verifiable. How is “notability” defined? EdanTabain (talk) 11:05, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * you can read about how notability is defined on Wikipedia at WP:NOTABILITY. A few essays that might also be helpful include WP:GOLDENRULE, WP:THREESOURCES, WP:BACKWARD, and WP:FIRST. TipsyElephant (talk) 15:55, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shawn Teller (talk) 23:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment we could perhaps draftify this for and they could work on it in draftspace until they feel comfortable submitting it to WP:AfC for review. It appears there is already a draft in draftspace though. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Look, just forget it. I set the page up to get more Wikipedia skills – but it seems technically and practically too difficult. And now I don’t even know where the page had gone! Seems like Wikipedia is managed by anonymous people who arbitrarily decide what’s notable and what’s not. There’s so many other pages I’ve seen on Wikipedia for years of people with low-notability, so it just seems arbitrary. EdanTabain (talk) 00:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nom, notability is not inherited and the sources provided are not indpendent RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject of the article directly and indepth.  // Timothy :: talk  09:01, 4 March 2023 (UTC)


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