Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Theatre Comique


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 09:48, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

New Theatre Comique

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I nominated this article for deletion temporarily, until I realized that this article was previously a redirect, so I reverted to the version of the redirect and requested that the deletion discussion be itself deleted. However, this reversion was undone, so it seems like this article is being nominated for deletion after all. For one, the lead is directly copied from Church of the Messiah (Manhattan), and the only additional content is a list of previous names and managers which breaks WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. All in all, the theater does not appear to be notable, and I suggest redirecting this article back to "Church of the Messiah (Manhattan)]], which was the previous name of this building before it was converted into a theater. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:40, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:40, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:40, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:40, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete and redirect. I think a redirect to the church article is plenty good enough here. The long list of managers is certainly not noteworthy; some (most?) of them never even produced a show there.  As far as I can tell, the theatre never hosted a production that had a substantial run, and the only really interesting thing about it, which is not even mentioned in the article, is that Harrigan and Hart owned or leased it for the last three years before it burnt down, but as far as I can tell from IBDB, although they refurbished it, they never produced a show there. -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: There's sigcov here and here, and here, for instance. There's some level of coverage in the NYT (here and here). Given the variety of names and long history that the theatre had, it's not a happy redirect/merge to the questionably named Church of the Messiah (Manhattan) because of the multiple buildings/locations of that congregation. Plus it interlinks a bunch of bluelinks, which means that there appears to be loads of useful fragments of information in multiple biographical sources. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 03:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The redirect to the Church of the Messiah is questionable because the target article is about the congregation, not this specific building, and there appear to be enough sources about the building to establish its basic notability. --RL0919 (talk) 04:13, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.