Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York State Legislature Marriage Positions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the nomination was speedy delete. CSD G7 - author request. Kimchi.sg 07:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

New York State Legislature Marriage Positions
This is a list of how every New York State Legislator stands on the topic of gay marriage. I don't think this is encyclopedic as it is just their opinions on one issue and is just an indiscriminate collection of information Metros232 11:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. FTA: "only a minority of [New York State Legislature] members have stated their positions [on same-sex marriage]. This is a wiki-effort to see where they stand." In other words, even the article's creator does not conceive of this as an encyclopedia article -- it's apparently intended to be using Wikipedia as personal web-space in order to conduct original research. Which is not what Wikipedia is for. &mdash; Haeleth Talk 15:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep it!
This will rely on community members to update the information and share collectively in this entry so that the entry can be completed. Would it make you happier if he wrote in "Unk" after each person whose position was unknown? I think you're trying to get it deleted for political reasons--you probably work for the legislature.--24.90.104.211 18:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. original research. In current form, violates verifiability policy as no sources are cited&mdash;the links are just generic links to descriptions of the district and/or the representative. If it is to be kept, then all unsourced material should be removed&mdash;which is, currently, all of it&mdash;and names reinserted one at a time with good, verifiable source citations of direct statements by the representative of what their position is. However, I still think the compilation of the material amounts to original research. It doesn't matter whether it is done by one editor or by "the community." Dpbsmith (talk) 20:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Both political parties, the New York state legislature, government watchdog groups and local advocates have done next to nothing to make this information available.
 * KEEP IT!!!

This entry is neutral. It's reporting where elected officials stand on an issue. This entry is verifiable. Just comb through their voting records. This entry is not original. Their info is based on bills already proposed.

Any effort to remove this information serves only to prevent the public from knowing about public officials.

If this entry is removed, hopefully it will reappear elsewhere on the Internet, and spawn similar efforts on other issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.73.205.42 (talk • contribs)


 * DELETE too parochial. 132.205.95.27 22:54, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have no problem with this information appearing elsewhere on the Internet, but I don't think this encyclopedia is supposed to be used to tally legislators' positions in this method. --Metropolitan90 00:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong delete, this really doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. See WP:NOT. --Core des at talk. o.o;; 00:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT in agreement with Haeleth and Dpbsmith and Met90 and Core. Besides, when I read the title I thought of a wikilist with just one entry:  "1.  Missionary."  New York has liberal state laws:  The one man and one woman can have the lights either on or off.  Barno 03:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * DELETE I created this here and see your point; I'll move it elsewhere. Any suggestions for who will host an active, free-standing wiki page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedailypolitics (talk • contribs)
 * I'm not sure why this has to be on a wiki (after all, there are basically only two options for each legislator's entry), but check the list of wikis at Wikia.com. I'm sure this page could fit into something there. --Metropolitan90 04:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.