Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York State Route 912C


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The result was   merge to New York State Route 146. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

New York State Route 912C

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The general consensus of the AFD-going portion of the community and the U.S. roads project has been that state routes are inherently notable, for a variety of reasons (listed here and in a perhaps more accessible format here if you're not familiar with them). However, this is a state route only in the most technical sense—it is a section of road maintained by NYSDOT, but not posted with signage to guide the road user. Indeed, it lacks a traditional route number; it is assigned only an inventory number presumably to facilitate records keeping at NYSDOT. (Such a route in New York is called a reference route, and such routes perform various sundry tasks that require state maintenance but are not worth signposting as an actual, or touring route. In this case, NY 912C's purpose is linking two other state routes.) As I understand it, the only signage directed to the road user by the state for this route is signage pointing to the other route it connects to: from NY 156 signage points motorists to NY 146, and vice versa. They are not made aware of the number 912C except by the usage of 10 in tall signs of the design shown in the infobox at the top of the page.

This route is only a block in length. That is, it is 0.08 mi long. That's 422.4 feet, slightly less than one and a half American football fields. Given this short extent, and the fact that it is not given the status most other state routes enjoy, I feel that not enough can be said about it to make it a good subject for an article. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge. In all purposes, this is just a small slab of pavement maintained by NYSDOT to connect routes. The only thing differentiating it from a bannered loop / spur (similar to U.S. Route 101 Alternate (Washington)) is the state route shield. A state route shield should not imply notability by itself; rather, routes should be selected for inclusion in Wikipedia as a standalone article by their notability (and that would include most state routes). --Rschen7754 (T C) 07:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to New York State Route 146. NY 912C is little more than a small, state-maintained roadway providing a connection between two signed state touring routes. The route is also unsigned and hidden from both the general public and commuters, save for small, 8 inch by 10 inch green signs alongside the route that serve only as inventory reference points for NYSDOT. The content within this article can easily and adequately be covered in the article on NY 146. –  T M F 07:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge — extremely good argument on the part of the nom. Yes, state routes are inherently notable, but so are interstates, and this AFD shows consensus for merging an interstate article.  But why 146?  I don't see why either 146 or 156 is better than the other.  Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to New York State Route 146. I thought this was merged to NY 146 a while ago. This particular stretch of road is already discussed there. Also, as a general rule, I think we should not make articles on these very short, unsigned roads, especially if they can be discussed as part of another article as in this case. --Polaron | Talk 13:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  19:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  19:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge somewhere. I do not see how a road 0.8 miles (or is it km) long can be notable in its own right.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


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