Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York United States Senate Election, 2012


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. obviously can be recreated when there is substantial coverage. Spartaz Humbug! 18:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

New York United States Senate Election, 2012

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crystalballing. There is absolutely NO information out yet, and everything is just speculation at this point. Rwiggum (Talk /Contrib ) 22:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Until people start announcing their intention to run there's no reason for this to be here, otherwise it's pure conjecture The muffin is not subtle (talk) 23:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:CRYSTAL at its best, and it makes unsubstantiated assumptions and predictions (for example, we don't know if Clinton will seek re-election, especially if she's appointed Secretary of State). Shouldn't be recreated until there's substantial supported information available, which probably won't be till 2010. 23skidoo (talk) 00:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Total speculation. -Mgm|(talk) 00:15, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as an obvious case of WP:CRYSTAL. JJL (talk) 01:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:CRYSTAL. This article absolutely deserves a place in Wikipedia...starting in 2010 or '11. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 01:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note. Other similar articles:
 * United States presidential election, 2012
 * United States Senate elections, 2012
 * United States Senate election in North Dakota, 2012
 * Life of Riley (talk) 02:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment perhaps a case could be made for United States presidential election, 2012, but the others seem deleteable. JJL (talk) 04:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with JJL; the presidential article is viable because there is already well-sourced discussion regarding Palin and Romney as potential candidates for 2012, even this early. The others, not so much, though I'd hear out arguments for the full Senate article maybe in a year or so. 23skidoo (talk) 16:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per crystalballery and what it looks like POV-pushing as it squarely focuses on Hillary Clinton. MuZemike  ( talk ) 04:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as stub. I edited the article to remove the predictions and speculations. There's not much left, but this provides a base for expansion in the future. --Orlady (talk) 06:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete until after the 2010 Senate elections. Precedent seems to be that only the next scheduled election in any jurisdiction should have an article. In other words, United States presidential election, 2012 should stay since it is the next scheduled election for that position. See point 1 of WP:CRYSTAL. McWomble (talk) 07:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Delete, but I'd say also that I don't think that an article should be allowed for "the next scheduled election". For the 33 or 34 Senate seats that were up in 2006, including this one, the 2012 election would be the next scheduled election.  Mandsford (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * delete too early. No, really.  It's just too darned early.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep 4 years is not too far ahead for politics. News avccounts already talk about them. There is essentially absolute certainty that the event will occur, and IU imagine that everyone who might want to run in it is already starting to think on it, & the articles will follow. DGG (talk) 09:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to United States Senate election in New York, 2012 for consistency. The 2010 election may be the next election for Schumer's Senate seat, but 2012 is the next election for Clinton's seat. At the very least merge and redirect to United States Senate elections, 2012 DHowell (talk) 00:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.