Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. It's snowing. A redirect can be created at editorial discretion, but history created by a blocked editor does not need to be maintained. Star  Mississippi  22:50, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii

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There is no reliable sourcing for this, fails WP:GNG. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:36, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:36, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. i disagree, it has sources FROM newer team itselfs, and there is 13 even more indepent sources. TheSecondComing10 (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete already covered in the previous target, the sources suck and this is basically a fandom entry. PICKLEDICAE🥒 18:37, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not a single reliable, independent source. Clear WP:GNG fail. - MrOllie (talk) 18:38, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I've added more Independent sources [ removed personal attack Andre🚐 19:18, 5 September 2022 (UTC) ].  TheSecondComing10 (talk) 18:39, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Stellar choice to insult experienced editors, @TheSecondComing10. Especially after you've edit warred and created utter nonsense. Brilliant, truly. PICKLEDICAE🥒 18:41, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you are not experienced wikipedia editor. This isnt esports or FIFA tf? TheSecondComing10 (talk) 18:42, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Gee, I guess you're right, with our collective edits of 433k plus, we're just all idiots and don't know what we're talking about. My bad. PICKLEDICAE🥒 18:49, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Certified Wikipedia Addict. Having that many edits doesnt make you "good" or "experienced" TheSecondComing10 (talk) 18:50, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * East there friend, you've added links to websites connected to the project. We need independent discussions of the game, CNET for example, and several of them, to meet GNG. This is fluff article with next to nothing we can use for proper sourcing and is a long way from GNG. Wikipedia isn't someone's personal website where we can post whatever pleases us, we have to follow notability guidelines. Personal attacks are never welcome. Oaktree b (talk) 20:01, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * SecondComing10 has been blocked for a week, so that's the end of that. Please keep it civil folks. Oaktree b (talk) 20:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable fan-mod Andre🚐 18:39, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Has sources from notables like eurogamer. 97.106.2.84 (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2022 (UTC) (Sock vote striken -- ferret (talk) 16:24, 6 September 2022 (UTC))
 * Eurogamer is notable? Google returns almost nothing for a search on . The same is true for the latest source added by TheSecondComing10 to the article, . Largoplazo (talk) 20:40, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Eurogamer is a WP:RS and has a Wikipedia article, but believe they may be conflating coverage of the Wii version of the mod with the Nintendo DS version, which got more mentions. Not that I think the sources are WP:SIGCOV either way. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:54, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Concur with Zxcvbnm, Eurogamer is a valid source, but doesn't help in this case. Andre🚐 21:01, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - sigh.... why do we need to spend our time doing this. For all the reasons noted above. Fails WP:GNG and the "discussion" above is a very convincing proof of an editor (together with their sock follower) who is not here to benefit Wikipedia.  Velella  Velella Talk  18:50, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails the WP:GNG. Could have a mention at a New Super Mario Bros type section if the "sequel" section was reworked to something like that, at most. Sergecross73   msg me  19:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Most publicity for this mod seems to come from the fact that Nintendo accidentally used it as the basis for designing Super Nintendo World, which while humorous, is not evidence of notability and could easily be mentioned on another page. Otherwise, fails GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, per the other rationales above. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:30, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete GNG hasn't been met. And the discussion with the accusations above does nothing to advance the situation here; please keep it civil folks. Oaktree b (talk) 19:58, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG; promotional article. Nythar T . C 20:27, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Article creator has been checkuser blocked as a sockpuppet of TzarN64. -- ferret (talk) 21:39, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Strong Merge Upon inspection of the edit history of this article, it turns out that the "article" was recently (i.e. within the past 24 hours) an article. It isn't really fair that the "Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii" page should be deleted considering that the page was a redirect between 2018 and several hours ago. The only reason why the page became a mainspace is because of a certain user "mainstream-ifying" it and reverting reverts in bad faith. AlphaBeta135 (talk) 23:53, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note and rollback Redirects are not subject to notability, so it is possible that the article won't get deleted and rather through other means (see WP:ATD). Also, I am not sure that this AfD is justifiable because, again, a certain vandal who, several hours ago, just "un-merged" this page and created this most likely not notable article (see WP:N). While there is a subpar amount of sources in the article to warrant notability status, the majority of the sources are either primary, non-independent, or irrelevant sources. I believe that it is in the best interest to just rollback this whole page to before September 5, 2022 (when it was merged to New Super Mario Bros. Wii), instead of just outright deleting the article without considering any alternatives. AlphaBeta135 (talk) 01:30, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand what is happening here. We're discussing deleting the article, this does not mean a redirect cannot be recreated. PICKLEDICAE🥒 13:11, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * There is no reason to stop now after days of discussion and a relatively clear consensus emerging. Sergecross73   msg me  14:07, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Sources are not independent and meeting of WP:GNG. Also reeks of blatant promotion. --MuZemike 00:58, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Creation by blocked user User:TzarN64 casualdejekyll  13:29, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete per casualdejekyll. Otherwise, delete per above. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:01, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete The article meets G11 and G5 --2600:1700:9BF3:220:A419:A74B:C65:46D1 (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.