Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newly Independent States


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was redirect.

Reading the discussion, I concur that this term as defined in the article is original research. The closest sourced topic is "Newly Independent States of the Former Soviet Union" which currently redirects to Post-Soviet states. I am going to carry out the redirect. I decline to merge anything because the former Soviet states are already included and the non-Soviet states are irrelevant. However, if I missed anything, please pull it out of the page history. Rossami (talk) 05:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Newly Independent States
Except for the fact that this states aren't new for the last 10 years, encyclopedia should not contain articles having "newly" in the topic. Dijxtra 10:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Not a useful list, the fact that none of the new states listed are actually particularly recent shows it isn't valuable. Kcordina 11:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename The links cited below by rodii show that the title Newly Independent States is used by the US government to refer to states of the former Russian Republic, not independent states that are new. This explains Grandmasterka's observation below.  If that is to what the article is intended to refer, then it should be renamed to indicate that and make it clear that it is not a list of independent states that are new.  I suggest Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union since that seems to be what the US government use.  If rename is not agreed, then my vote is delete.  Kcordina 15:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Good suggestion. rodii 15:46, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete, not a useful list. Curious that East Timor and Eritrea are not present (the newest states!) Grandmasterka 12:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename, if not Delete per Kcordina. PJM 12:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 *  Keep Rename. Oh for god's sake. The NIS is an offical US government designation. See    and thousands of others. The article needs to be improved, not deleted. "Has 'newly' in the topic" is not a deletion criterion. rodii 23:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve, as per Rodii. Lukas (T. 23:15, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, seeing as it's a government designation. Stifle 14:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, if it's a term that's going to be used by a very notable entity (the US govt), it damn well ought to be represented in WP. - Keith D. Tyler &para; 23:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: But the proper, government term, is Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union. The current title is misleading as it suggests the article is about new states in general, hence my rename proposal. Kcordina 09:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, but my point still stands.
 * Comment: Note that Newly Independent States of the Former Soviet Union exists as a redirect to Post-Soviet states. Punkmorten 14:57, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Post-Soviet states. - Keith D. Tyler &para; 16:10, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.