Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newton Nite Hawks


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The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 04:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Newton Nite Hawks

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Local football team of no apparent relevance outside the small Iowa town where it played. Yes, it made the local paper once, but verifiability is not always tantamount to notability. Biruitorul Talk 16:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
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 * Keep I think this article is relevant for 2 reasons. First, Jim Foster, who started the team, later invented Arena Football. Also as the article states, the Nite Hawks and the Chicago Lions were the first professional teams to play in Europe. That in itself goes beyond just a local team and one local story. Both the "Associated Press" and "Stars and Stripes" had articles about the trip to Europe. Also the "Des Moines Register" rated the trip in their top 10 sports stories of 1977. Stan AllspachSonnyqb (talk) 03:31, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
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 * Keep The article is relevant for the reasons listed above. Additionally, the team was also covered by the UPI, the Armed Forces Network, and appeared in news outlets throughout the United States (IL, TX, WA, AZ, NY, GA to name a few) during the European tour in summer of 1977.  As stated in the article, this was a historical event in American football.  This team and the Intercontinental Football League (Al Davis and Tex Schramm headed the NFL committee to put the IFL together along with Bob Kap) was the model for NFL Europe 15 years later.  A review of Wikipedia yielded over 118 other teams and leagues in the category “Semi Professional Football”. The fact that the Nite Hawks were from a small town and made such a contribution to the game is what makes this entry worthy of retention.  (ORDFlyer (talk) 08:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC))
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 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  22:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
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 * Relisted again so to have consensus from non-SPA accounts/users. -- JForget 22:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - I think Sonnyqb and ORDFlyer provide more than ample explanation for why this subject is notable, and the article has reliable sources to back up its notability. And besides, I think we need more articles of local interest on Wikipedia, not less... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  08:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per others. The additional non-Iowa newspaper sources support the subject's originally stated claim to notability.  Mandsford (talk) 18:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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