Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ng Beng Kee


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Per PERP and 1E. Courcelles (talk) 19:41, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Ng Beng Kee

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Fails WP:PERP, also WP:ONEVENT. As per similar recent AfDs on drug smugglers. LibStar (talk) 23:15, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Thought was going to combine these articles together? Elinruby (talk) 23:39, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:28, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable for more than one event: drug smuggling, arrest, prosecution, execution. This is a bit like saying delete Madonna as she is only notable for singing, or delete Pele as he's only notable for football. CT55555 (talk) 02:18, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * "drug smuggling, arrest, prosecution, execution" it's all related to drug smuggling. also clearly fails WP:PERP. LibStar (talk) 02:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I disagree. WP:PERP says we should only create an article if the "motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual". This is a newsworthy event, and the largest ever heroin seizure the country. I think that meets the definition of "unusual". I cannot reconcile that with "clearly" failing the guideline.
 * Additionally, the idea that WP:ONEEVENT scope is to include being notable for lots of connected events would exclude most people's notability, most sports people, most performers, more politicians. If we are only to include in the encyclopaedia people who are doubly famous for two unrelated things, that would eliminate about 99% of the biographies on here. Joe Biden is only notable for events connected to politics. Being only notable for connected events is way more than guidelines attempts to exclude. CT55555  (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Joe Biden, Pele and Madonna are clearly notable by the 1000s (if not tens of thousands) pieces of significant coverage. To compare Ng Beng Kee to these 3 people is ludicrous. LibStar (talk) 01:57, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * But they are notable for things that are all related. And yet we see clearly that isn't an issue, because there is enough coverage of different events about the same connected thing. That's my point. And it's not "ludicrous" to compare them, the logic is the same, even though I've obviously used blatant examples to emphasize the point. CT55555 (talk) 20:06, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The Straits Times articles report only the bare facts of the case. Fails WP:PERP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BruceThomson (talk • contribs) 03:58, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. biggest heroin seizure in Singaporean history by a long shot, maybe change the title to "1982 Apollo Hotel heroin seizure" to focus on the event instead of making it a bio ?  some tidy up needed of course  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker (talk • contribs) 08:17, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Singapore.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:47, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

*Keep. biggest heroin seizure in Singaporean history, can maybe change the title to "1982 Apollo Hotel heroin seizure" to focus on the event instead of making it a bio of Ng Beng Kee  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker (talk • contribs) 15:51, 7 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 03:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * struck out duplicate !vote. LibStar (talk) 01:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * sorry thought i had a new vote 13:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC) WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker (talk) 13:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Final relist Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, clear failure of WP:CRIME and WP:BIO1E, and as there is no indication the event Kee received a brief bout of coverage for has been the subject of any lasting coverage it does not deserve an article. Devonian Wombat (talk) 10:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom. even though it is the largest amount seized thus far, the rest of the content doesn't really warrant an article, and that statement can be taken out and be placed in Capital punishment in Singapore or Misuse of Drugs Act (Singapore) or a consolidated article. – robertsky (talk) 11:24, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.