Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Niall Sheehy (entertainer)


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:47, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Niall Sheehy (entertainer)

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The notability criteria include, "Has won or placed in a major music competition." Is Superstar (UK TV series) a major music competition, and does making it to the final eight constitute 'placing' in it? These are the questions before us. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Superstar looks to be on par with Pop Idol or The X Factor. Finalists of those competitions aren't deemed to be notable just by participation; I don't see why Superstar would be any different. Looking at his credits, he's only had one lead role; WP:ENTERTAINER says that the presumption of notability requires multiple lead roles. Finally, the article cites no secondary sources; all sources are the subject's website or Facebook. —C.Fred (talk) 20:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:MUSICBIO criterion #9, although I will admit that the article requires work.-- Laun  chba  ller  20:59, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. J 1982 (talk) 22:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: In horse-racing, "winning" means 1st place, "placing" means second place, and "showing" means third pace.  He did appear on national television for 5 episodes.  Did this generate significant coverage for him?  If it did, did the scope of the coverage go beyond WP:ONEEVENT?  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  22:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: Unless he has additional significant coverage not reflected in the article as of a few minutes ago, I would say delete without prejudice for re-creating an article that clearly demonstrates the subject's notability, with the stipulation that coming in 8th place on this TV show and appearing on that TV show and in promotional materials related to that TV show do not in and of themselves constitute significant coverage of this person except to the extent that they are talking about significant events in his career independent of the show.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  22:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Implicit in my recommendation is that because he's only appeared in one major show to date, he's not yet notable. He could easily go on to become notable with some future roles. That's no reason to have an article yet, though: Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. —C.Fred (talk) 22:30, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm considering the possibility that his work-to-date may have garnered enough significant coverage to warrant an article but that we do not yet have this coverage listed on the page. The burden of proof is on those who claim he does have notability to demonstrate it, which is why I'm going with "weak delete, without prejudice...".  Of course, as his career matures, he will become more "notable" in the Wikipedia sense of the word and may cross the "threshold of notability" if he has not done so already.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  23:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete, per fisher queen. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 15:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: I have just chastised for removing the AfD template on the page, among other things.--  Laun  chba  ller  09:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. An host of edits by various sock puppets have not added any evidence of notability. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete -- He has not achieved enough to be notable yet; may be one day. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:36, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.