Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nick McNamara


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The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Nick McNamara

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Contested PROD by IP user, without any explanation. Footballer fails WP:ATHLETE as he has never played in a fully-professional game. --Jimbo[online] 11:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - This player just about passes notability guidelines IMO. He has played 5 games for a professional (albeit non-league) club. John Sloan @ 12:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The Conference National isn't fully-professional, as the criteria states he needs to have played in. --Jimbo[online] 13:38, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a matter of opinion really. Also, the standard of the league isn't the only factor to consider here! People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport. ASAIK, Rushden & Diamonds are still a professional club. My interpretation of WP:ATHLETE is that this is enough for their players to meet the notability guidelines. John Sloan @ 13:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Isn't the "fully professional level" the league/competitions he's played in rather than the club itself? --Jimbo[online] 13:54, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily, I would certainly say playing for a professional football club qualifies as a "fully professional level". And although not fully professional, the Conference is still a pretty high profile league. However, because this is on the borderline, i'll be keeping the "weak" keep !vote. John Sloan @ 14:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. GiantSnowman 16:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - hasn't played in a fully-pro league, and therefore fails WP:ATHLETE. GiantSnowman 16:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - gazillions of players who have never played above the Conference have been deleted in the past for failing WP:ATHLETE, this guy's case seems no different -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete. The Conference isn't fully professional as some clubs are still semi-professional, so he hasn't competed at a fully professional level yet. Delete this article, then recreate it if he makes it to a pro league. Bettia   (bring on the trumpets!)  08:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. There are no sources (at all) to suggest he passes the general notability guideline, so WP:ATHLETE is all we can go on. Rushden are a pro club, but the league in which they play is not fully professional. The article says McNamara played on non-contract terms, so there's no evidence that he himself was playing as a professional. I don't see how he can possibly be argued to have competed "at the fully professional level of a sport" as required by WP:ATHLETE. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as hasn't played in a fully professional league. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  09:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete fully professional level means fully professional league, no matter if his club pays him on a full-time basis. What if a level 14 club decides to sign professionally all of its players? Are they suddenly notable? I don't think so... --Angelo (talk) 10:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


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