Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicky Holland


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The result was Delete. Fram (talk) 09:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Nicky Holland

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Contested prod (removed by IP without explanation). Football player that fails WP:BIO as he has never played in a fully professional league (the Welsh Premier League has an average attendance of 276 and only two full time clubs) and consensus is that youth caps (U-17) do not confer notability. пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  08:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  08:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman (talk) 14:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete It quickly fails WP:ATHLETE - no professional experience. Gary King ( talk )  20:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. LLanelli AFC are the current champions of the Welsh Premier League. Can they be regarded as at the highest level of their amateur sport? Ha! (talk) 10:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The Welsh Premier League does contain two fully professional teams, therefore it cannot be said to be an amateur competition. It is of similar standing to England's Football Conference, and dozens of players who have never risen above that competition have been deleted via AfD ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Are there any examples of Welsh football teams (and players) that are both amateur and are regarded as being at the height of their amateur sport? Ha! (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It depends on the interpretation of that clause. Some people at AfD claim that it is not relevant, as football is a professional sport and the clause only applies to sports which are solely amateur.  Some claim that the "highest level of amateur sports" refers to the highest level in the world, which I guess would be the Olympic Games.  Others claim that it refers to the highest level of amateur competition within a given country.  In Wales the highest level of football at which all players are completely amateur would most likely be some county-level league where the average number of spectators at a game is about 10, and I think you'd struggle to argue for the inclusion of players from that sort of league on WP....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, that clause is open to a few interpretations. I come across a few of these footballers when checking new pages and I'm never quite sure what to do with them. I suppose really this is the wrong place to find out though, I'll dig around elsewhere.Ha! (talk) 12:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - no pro experience ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Ban  Ray  11:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nomination --Jimbo[online] 22:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Dancarney (talk) 14:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


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