Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicolás Isasi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While there is no question that the subject is a director, the sense of the discussion here is that the subject has not garnered coverage in reliable sources that provide evidence of sufficient notability to warrant an article. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  02:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Nicolás Isasi

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Subject does not meet WP requirements. Article does not meet WP requirements. Sources are not reliable. Article should not have been approved to main space. Maineartists (talk) 01:03, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * KEEP I don't agree at all with the removal of the article. There are many others that have less and more unreliable information out there. You can look for the quotes, there are references to books, newspapers, magazines, websites, and even information on various editions of the artist in other languages for a long time. Dtiw (talk) 01:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC) — Dtiw (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * comment@Dtiw Considering you just made your first and only edit to the article itself here: and then immediately commented here:, it looks suspiciously like WP:SP. That being said, one does not judge a WP article based on the notability or validity or other WP articles. Researching the subject, the only online sources are self-published bios:  that refer to him as a director of shorts as a student while studying in school; and his own website: . The article reads WP:RESUME and self-promotional; not encyclopedic. Maineartists (talk) 01:26, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason for keeping. LibStar (talk) 02:55, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Actors and filmmakers, Theatre,  and Argentina.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * KEEP I've been able to find several mentions and sources. I'll work on improving the article as soon as I can adding more sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artwwwriter (talk • contribs) 15:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that Artwwwriter, the article creator, removed the AfD tag from the article . I've warned them not to do that. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:20, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that Artwwriter and Dtiw are most likely the same editor. Regardless of double "keep"s, this should not sway the voting here. The article needs to be reviewed and voted on by experienced WP editors. Maineartists (talk) 23:06, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not the same editor, but we edit in the same article. And when I took out the upper box it's because I thought this was in talk, it wasn't for any other reason. I insist that I will look for more sources if there is data that is not corroborated it will be eliminated, but I do not think it is to eliminate everything. Artwwwriter (talk) 01:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I made paragraph correction, eliminating sentences without sources and citing the corresponding ones. The 4 books in which his work in recent years is documented with the respective publication codes, in some cases the pages where it is mentioned. Also, precise references from different official organizations, newspapers, magazines, foundations and online sites dedicated to art and culture that support the above data: Official Website of the Government of the City of Buenos Aires, National History Library from Buenos Aires, Cultura e spettacolo magazine and Teatro e Critica (Italy), newspaper as Quotidiano Piemontese, El Día, Ámbito Financiero, Clarín, Diario de Cultura, 0221, Revista Colofón, Mundo Clásico, Fundación Romeo, Festival Shakespeare en la Escuela. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artwwwriter (talk • contribs) 04:29, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment You still have not addressed any of the aforementioned violations of WP policy stated on the Talk Page. The references you have added are exactly the same as the ones that are there now. Please see Talk Page again. Maineartists (talk) 11:09, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I have now gone in and removed all unsourced and primary sourced content, resume and promotional style writing, links to non-notable content and persons, etc. Unfortunately, what is left are still sources directly linked to the subject. Because the BLP is only known in Argentina, there are no sources outside this area; which is not a negative, but to achieve notability at English WP, there should be at least some coverage of a BLP claiming to be a notable film and opera director, critic and professor. None of which are. The article still fails notability for subject category and I dare say even: WP:GNG. Maineartists (talk) 11:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Maineartists' thorough assessment. JoelleJay (talk) 12:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. The article demonstrates that he is a director, but it does not demonstrate that he is a notable one.  Many of the sources are SR or puff pieces, and others merely confirm that he directed a production.  The claim that he was a "semi-finalist" at a Russian young directors' competition is overblown: 13 competitors were accepted to the competition, and he was one of them. None of his films is notable, and he appears to have directed only a handful of operas, and they were not, apparently, presented at Argentina's major opera houses. The argument that other articles exist for people who are less notable is a poor argument.  WP:TOOSOON. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:18, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: The lack of sources aside, just reading the article shows it fails GNG and there is a lack of notability as a professor, director, or a critic. --  Otr500 (talk) 05:34, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * KEEP Modify by adding reference citations to newspapers, magazines, and theatrical broadcasting sites. 2001:8A0:6A27:4000:8CDD:B5A5:830:4016 (talk) 04:19, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * COMMENT Note: similar to Artwwwriter and Dtiw (who only contributed to this article and has not contributed to the article or any discussion since pointing out similar edit history), the above editor 2001:8A0:6A27:4000:8CDD:B5A5:830:4016 has also only contributed to this article and introduced content and sources exactly the same to the previous editors: links by association, non-notable content, do not even mention subject, etc. They are exactly the same type of source that the above 2 editors have contributed to this article. I have removed content. Once again, I must state that either this is the same editor, SP or a direct COI. I do not believe the vote to keep should be allowed since the entry on this page is similar to the original two editors. (whom I had to fix). Maineartists (talk) 11:58, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * KEEP Your position of erasing everything in each edition is very childish, saying that they are all the same person because one tries to contribute. I have a life, I don't spend erasing what others do. I aggregate data with sources that are cultural trusted entities. Obviously you lack knowledge or you can't read Spanish. Dtiw (talk) 22:21, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * COMMENT Dtiw I am erasing what you edit because the content is non-notable, unsourced or contains primary sources directly related to the subject. Please stop editing the article or you will be blocked for WP:DISRUPTIVE. There is nothing childish about my reverts. I am translating everything you are adding and not one of the sources are admissible. You have only edited at WP on this article. You do not know what you are doing. Please stop. Maineartists (talk) 22:47, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ssilvers sentiments. Best, GPL93 (talk) 11:20, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.