Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicole Shiraz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus that the current sources are not reliable/independent enough to demonstrate notability Nosebagbear (talk) 13:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Nicole Shiraz

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This person gets some coverage in the tabloid/gossip/gutter press, but I don't see enough in-depth coverage in solid reliable sources either to justify having a page or to enable us to write one. She has started a small business, and that is covered by NewsComAu. She is apparently th same person as Nicole Asgar. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:32, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:32, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:32, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment I seems like there was a previous AfD (Articles_for_deletion/Nicole_Asgar), which resulted in a delete. Achaea (talk) 20:17, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as there are quite a few stories in gossip magazines as well as some serious news reporting places. So topic this passes WP:GNG. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:39, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete There is plenty of material in various gossip publications, but there is nothing sufficient that I can find in any mainstream publication.  And gossip publications are just that, not reliable.  By the time one removes references soley due to the subject's boy friends, some of whom are notable in their right, but notability is not inherited, and the facebook, and the instagram, and the twitter, and photo sites, and the "spot the celebrity who is only famous for being famous" sites, etc., there was only a very small handfull of hits left, referring to BossLadies, but not enough that I could see to support anything like GNG, and then that would be inherited, ie Boss Ladies might be notable but not its creator.  I am okay with being corrected if someone can give me appropriate counter examples.  Aoziwe (talk) 12:27, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete A ProQuest database search of all Australian and NZ newspapers revealed 3 extremely brief mentions of Shiraz in equally brief articles about a realty TV star and LA Lakers basketball player. While   the sources are national publications (Sunday Telegraph and Daily Telegraph), none of the articles are substantive about the subject, let alone Shiraz. Fails WP:IRS. Cabrils (talk) 06:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. A celebutante with significant coverage is still notable, even if she's merely famous for being famous. Bearian (talk) 23:36, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Provided that coverage is in reliable sources though? Aoziwe (talk) 01:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep I love love loveeeee my binge-worthy celebutantes (lol, I had never heard that before until mentioned it) and any excuse to look at stupid trashy websites, but alas, I think it might be WP:TOOSOON. This Heavy article is the closest thing to a source I consider trustworthy (in the US it's a popular, trusted popular culture magazine). I will gladly write it when she does make it out of the Daily Mail and into Cosmopolitan. Missvain (talk) 02:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:50, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Although she is very pretty, all that supports this page is a few gossip column mentions.NotButtigieg (talk) 13:03, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thankfully beauty has nothing to do with having a Wikipedia article. Phew! Missvain (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete lacking reliable sources to establish notability. LibStar (talk) 15:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. Teraplane (talk) 02:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.