Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicole Wray (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy keep, worrisome nomination, disruption is no reason to delete an article and the topic easily meets WP:BAND. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Nicole Wray

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I want this page deleted for (protecting, edit wars, vandilism, erases of new information or updates)

Delete When new information is added to the page with a source, it is deleted and removed. This people are responsible (User:Jayron32, User:Hello Control, User:Kww, User:Kurt Shaped Box, User:Geniac). They have continued to erase any updated and correct information. Not only that, they have collaborated without messaging each other, which may lead to a sockpuppet case. However, they started edit wars over Nicole Wray's (disco, bio, template, and albums page). Whenever another or new user tries to update the page, they erase it even when it is correct and valid information. An good example would be when I went through a history of the Nicole Wray discography page, Cam'ron and Nicole Wray released a single call "Do Your Thing", the song debut at number 65 on U.S. R&B charts, but when the billboard link was showed they continue to erase that peace of information. That statement falls under the category of (erases of new information or updates). When ask why is was removed, User:Jayron32, User:Hello Control, User:Kww, User:Kurt Shaped Box, User:Geniac respond by (blocking someone who is believe to be a sockpuppet, no reliable sources, or to view certain rules that have nothing to do with the situation). They block someone because they keep saying that they are sockpuppets of User:Soccermeko. User:Soccermeko has said, "I don't care about Wikipedia because it is a dumb site". My points are proved when I quoted User:Hello Control, "Who else cares about Nicole and her unreleased albums? User:Hello Control 20:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)". The point proves that he has tried to ruin Nicole Wray's pages. This page need to be delete so that no more edit wars will happen on this page. If these pages are not deleted, then (User:Jayron32, User:Hello Control, User:Kww, User:Kurt Shaped Box, User:Geniac) should be unable to edit the pages. 4.129.65.144 (talk) 16:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep Bad faith nomination to make a WP:POINT. L0b0t (talk) 16:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This is not bad faith nomination, but if no one can edit the page except (User:Jayron32, User:Hello Control, User:Kww, User:Kurt Shaped Box, User:Geniac) then there is no need of having the page unless everyone can edit it. 4.129.65.144 (talk) 16:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep Is there a special category for "AFD created by a blocked user"? Created by Soccermeko, no reason to even pay attention. Kww (talk) 16:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment That proves my point, you believe everyone who is not an admin and has edit the pages is a sockpuppet. 4.129.65.144 (talk) 16:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep Bad faith nomination, if you need information changed/added, suggest on the talkpage. --Dirk Beetstra T  C 16:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, he can't do that either. It's a pain to rollback an AFD, or I would just take of this right now. He's blocked, and has been such a nuisance sockpuppeteer since his block that there is no chance that he will ever be permitted to edit Wikipedia again. It would be nicest if he would just realize that, and go away. Kww (talk) 16:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * See what I mean, to you everyone has to be a sockpuppet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.129.65.144 (talk) 16:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just keep eyes on you and Editor652. Kind of like playing Whac-A-Mole, but free and with a better paper-trail. Kww (talk) 16:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Everyone reconsider your vote when you go to User:Hello Control's talk page. It doesn't matter whether this stays or not but it needs to be fair. User:Kww need to be blocked, he has also believe that User:KingLilTroy was a sockpuppet for just editing the discography page. 4.129.65.144 (talk) 16:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep or Speedy keep for total lack of any credible reason to delete + meets the criteria to keep. As a penance, make the nominator write Deletion policy in calligraphy and sell the prints to raise money to fight illiteracy.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  16:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep, per L0b0t, davidwr. justinfr (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment People might want to review
 * Suspected sock puppets/Soccermeko
 * Suspected sock puppets/Soccermeko (2nd)
 * Suspected sock puppets/Soccermeko (2nd nomination)
 * Suspected sock puppets/Soccermeko (5th)
 * Suspected sock puppets/Soccermeko(8th)
 * when forming their opionion. Kww (talk) 17:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * keep appears to have valid sources indicating notability. no valid reasons in nomination for delete. -- The Red Pen of Doom  17:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Question As this was nominated by a sock puppet of a banned user to, by the nom's own admission, make a WP:POINT can we just close this as keep per WP:SNOW? Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 17:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment in case this ever comes up again: Assuming the relevant articles are correct - I didn't bother to check the original sources - the album Make It Hot went gold and was in the top-50 on Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums and Billboard 200. 2 of its songs, I Can't See and Eyes Better Not Wander, broke the top-100s on at least one major chart.  Her song "Without You" was featured in the movie Why Do Fools Fall in Love.  A later single, I'm Lookin', also broke the top-100 charts.  The article clearly meets WP:N and if the citations aren't stale, it meets WP:V.  As of the current edit the article doesn't have any other major problems that would warrant a deletion.  As far as I know, the subject of the article has not asked that the article be deleted.  This summary should short-circuit future AfD attempts.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  17:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This AfD is being hijacked to do finger-pointing and sockpuppet allegations. Please take those to the appropriate editor-conduct forums.  It doesn't take an administrator to speedy-close but I'm going to post on one of the administrator noticeboards asking for a non-involved administrator to speedy-close it.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  17:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.