Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nigel Paulet, 18th Marquess of Winchester


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The result was Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Pilaz (talk) 14:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Nigel Paulet, 18th Marquess of Winchester

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:ANYBIO. British nobleman with no sufficient significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources. All of the sources are deprecated peerage websites (with the exception of Burke's peerage, which is only reliable for genealogy). Peers Magazine, while not deprecated, belongs to that category too. His entry in Who's Who (UK) is also considered generally unreliable per consensus at WP:RSP. Pilaz (talk) 14:28, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn. Meets WP:NPOL, although in my opinion doesn't meet WP:BASIC. WP:BIOSPECIAL would apply here, but it's probably best not to drag it out at AfD. Pilaz (talk) 14:18, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. Pilaz (talk) 14:28, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Pilaz (talk) 14:28, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

On balance Delete. I had a look on the Hansard site, suspecting that he went to South Africa under apartheid and therefore wouldn't have contributed much before the 1999 reform, and indeed there were just a few contributions and then nothing between 1973 and just before he lost that right. So not really notable as a politician and, in the modern world, not really notable for his title either. (Whereas there are some post-1999 hereditary peers who are notable for other reasons, such as the current Earl of Shaftesbury for his previous life about as far removed from the hereditary peerage as you can get.) RobinCarmody (talk) 19:01, 23 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Certainly a member of the House of Lords is notable? He was a member for over thirty years according to the UK Parliament website. And it looked like he actually participated, having made speeches on at least four occasions in 1973. He also has a page entry in Debrett's, which is considered a RS by WP:RSP; and he is the highest ranking marquess in the UK. --Kbabej (talk) 00:09, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Debrett's is only reliable with respect to genealogical information, and is hardly WP:SIGCOV. And if WP:POLITICIAN was met, a merge under WP:BIOSPECIAL would likely be in order here. Pilaz (talk) 12:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note that I have never known an article on a member of a national legislature, including the House of Lords, to be deleted at AfD. Consensus is very clear on this matter. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * LoL, What a WP:IDONTLIKE case. There is not possible to delete the articles about members of the Parliament. I've never seen as my experience. How a joke. 🤣. VocalIndia (talk) 03:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly passes WP:POLITICIAN as a member of a national legislature. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Strong Keep Nonsense AfD. A member of a national parliament is automatically notable on Wikipedia.  VocalIndia (talk) 03:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)


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