Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nigerian Players Representing Other Nations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There's some reasonable suggestions here for renames, but I'll leave that up to others to do some consensus building. I did not verify the claims that this is a copy-paste from another wikipedia article, but if that is indeed true, somebody needs to follow up with the proper attribution per WP:COPYWITHIN. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:26, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Nigerian Players Representing Other Nations

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Appears to be a football related article. Not the kind of list that belongs on wikipedia Almy (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:58, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:02, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment the article is a bit of a mess (and mixes football and rugby players) and should be titled as a list, but I don't see a rationale for deletion here. There are plenty of similar lists of footballers - List of foreign football players in the Netherlands as one example. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 02:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * . Thanks for linking to that page and all the players on that list seem to have their own articles - they are blue linked. This may not be the case here, for the list page at this AfD - and the author would have to research which players are notable to match what you have shown us.


 * In any case, I am discussing this issue with the author of this article, but pertaining to other list articles he/she has created. I am wondering if you would be willing to join in the discussion taking place on my talk page to possibly give us some ideas on how to make these lists work. Here is the section on my talk page entitled Thanks for understanding. (It's a great title!) (a little bragging humor there :>)


 * Also, before joining the discussion please see the sections on the author's talk page (here) that pertain to me placing those list articles in the Draft Space while we seek improvement. Your input is very welcome because I am out of my depth pertaining to rugby and football players. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:45, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Your first paragraph here gives misleading impression, I'll assume this an oversight and not intentional. You seems to be saying that the Netherlands' article is full of "blue links" but may not be the case here, that's this one contains lot of redlink, or simply non notable people. Although the former is more developed (expected, since it has been developed since 2010), it contains far more redlink ratio than any list article I have seen. I've roughly counted over 250, that's very large number. Meanwhile this article contains mere 3 redlinks and it was just started, we don't know how far could be developed. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:25, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it seems that you are now giving a misleading impression of the situation. The vast majority of links on that page are blue. Yes, missing the red links was an oversight on my part, but so what. Maybe you could count the number of blue links on that page, since this seems to be an issue for you - in an attempt to be "fair and balanced". And if an argument for keep has to made on the amount of red links or blue links in a new article - then that is a really weak argument. I get it that some editors could care less about notability guidelines, either general notability or sports notability. But the truth is these are the measuring sticks for this type of article on Wikipedia, even though some editors seem to find these to be a pesky hindrance. So how many blue links are there in List of foreign football players in the Netherlands? Also, I would appreciate it if you no longer address me during this AfD. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 06:03, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no opposition to draft-ifying this until it is cleaned up. If they're all Rugby Union players, this should be fairly easy to fix while this discussion is open, though. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 14:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Draftify. I recommend draft space while the author attempts to improve this article for main space. Also, the The author seems to be a new user and he/she has the stated goal of developing pages that cover the history of Nigerian rugby, . I think the author should be given the chance to try to develop this and other similar articles. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:57, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Valid article, invalid reason for deletion. The claim that this is not the kind of list article we have has been proven false outright. The article should be renamed List of foreign football players in Nigeria, but that's for WP:RM process, not here. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:17, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete copy&paste of Nigeria national rugby union team -- Sawol (talk) 07:43, 28 July 2019
 * ---(signature fixed by Steve Quinn. See edit history for this page). ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Based on Armmarpad's and Power~enwiki's responses, I have struck my previous Ivote and opted for keep. This is because the topic is supported by the fact most of the players have their own pages and are probably from Nigeria. So far, I found one player born in England and that would be Ugo Monye (see infobox). We might have to remove this player from the list. The other players will have to be looked at for place of birth or place of residence prior to becoming a notable rugby player (imho). Also, I agree the title should be changed to List of Nigerian Players Representing Other Nations. And I agree that over time this could become quite an article. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I found a couple more players not actually from Nigeria who play on English teams. So I don't know the rationale for having these players on this list, but this can be discussed after the AfD. Or someone could open a discussion now, on the talk page of this article, and maybe this can be fleshed out. Whatever anyone feels like doing is OK with me. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:51, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete As pointed out above by Sawol, this is a straight duplication of Nigeria national rugby union team, and I see no reason why this short list should require its own article rather than exist as a subsection. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.