Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Night and the Doctor


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Withdrawn, no remaining recommendations to delete. (non-admin closure) &mdash;siro&chi;o 07:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Night and the Doctor
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Proposed for deletion for lack of notability Hektor (talk) 08:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC) *Delete Lets look at the sources. This sources is a tweet by the director, doesnt establish notability. This is Doctor Who Confidential which is a behind the scenes show. While this would be good for production information its not independent. This one talks about the miniepisodes directly so it would agree this is good. DVD Talk doenst seem reliable and seems like a collection of user generated reviews. I cant say much as to this as I am not familure with it. Once again I am not familure with this but this seems to be about the dvd release itself, and not the specifc story. Same story as with above about the dvd release, it does talk about it for a paragraph, and not particularly indebth more like a plot summary. Of these sources none of them are particularly great. So Delete is the proper course of action Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:28, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 15:38, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 15:38, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, bordering on speedy keep due to the superficial nomination statement. It's an official Doctor Who project &mdash; those don't sink into obscurity even when they become lost media &mdash; and it's already amply cited. In a case like this, an AfD nomination needs to make an effort to explain why the obvious factors counting in the article's favor somehow don't. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 15:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Just because its an official Doctor Who project doenst make it notable.
 * Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Technically it doesn't, but in practice, it kind of does. Topics become notable when people write about them in reliable sources, which happens with cultural mainstays like Doctor Who rather a lot of the time. Some of the more niche-interest topics, like one-off minor characters and settings visited only in passing, might not need a whole article. That's why we have List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens and so forth. At worst, Night of the Doctor would be a candidate for merging, not deletion. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, there were plenty of reliable sources already cited in the article when it was nominated. Donald D23   talk to me  15:42, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Having a sourced reception section, there seem to be enough sources to fullfill WP:WHYN. Daranios (talk) 16:15, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment DVD Talk is definitely considered a reliable source. Search the notice boards. It's been discussed and is used regularly in notbabilty discussions. Donald D23   talk to me  21:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * A story about the DVD release is an appropriate source for an article that, among other things, discusses the DVD release. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 21:31, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep I honestly don't see the issue with the article, either. Furthermore, this is a part of Doctor Who canon. In "The Husbands of River Song", in the final scene, River discusses with the Twelfth Doctor about why he kept cancelling their date to Darillium. During this, she mentions the "night there were two of you", a reference to the "Last Night" episode. This is also referenced in the episode's Wikipedia article under "Continuity" - a sourced reference - and that has never been questioned or challenged. So, if one of these interconnected mini-stories is connected to the main show's canon, then they all are connected. As such, this entire collection is canonical and notable. Ooznoz (talk) 05:03, 23 November 2023 (UTC)Ooznoz
 * Keep as nominator. For reasons leasted above, in particular regarding canon. Hektor (talk) 07:28, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep As the intitall nominator I see I did not do a good enough job in my before and the page is notable enough and should be kept and improved upon. WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 06:29, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


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